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1330 Performance Upgrades
So... where are all the performance upgrade threads? Who are the vendors that supply parts? Where are the dyno tuners and Rotex gurus that know where BRP hid the power? Where are the cams, high compression pistons, BBK's, turbo kits, supercharger kits, etc? You know, the stuff that makes fun bikes MORE fun!
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I don't think there is much in the way of "power" upgrades for the 1330. Only thing I have seen is exhaust and ECM flash.
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Talk to Jase at ECU Xtreme (rotaxracing@gmail.com) if you want to unleash the performance BRP has hidden away on both the 1330 triples & the 998 V-twins! There's a whole lot more that can be safely tapped in there, & he's the man when it comes to accessing it!
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Not that much out there. Most is custom and these machines require lots to keep running if you mess with them too much. Not a profitable venture. 10 years is not much in that world but if a generation crops up with intrest it will become available. As Mike said search the net....
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Hard to believe that the same company has turbo charged UTV's pumping out 172 HP from a 1000cc STOCK motor, and no one, even the aftermarket, has found safe ways of bumping up the HP / torque of the 1330 Spyder motor yet?!?! Other than ECU tuning anyway.
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Price & Performance: Put the two together and that's exactly why you don't see the younger generation riding them. @ 20K+, people expect more performance. Wouldn't take much more either... 10, maybe 15 percent and a lot more of us "young people" lol would be satisfied and more willing to extend ourselves financially IMO. ~ They unlocked the nanny in my 2017 D500-F3 (se), but being an automatic it doesn't have "quite enough" power/low end torque to make much of a difference. With good tires, it sticks to the road so well you can't predictably get the rear tire to slip, not even when starting on a corner let alone a straight line. (Almost makes it more dangerous for an experienced rider who is expecting to counter-steer but instead the inside tire just comes up.) Just that little extra power would resolve this.
I've left mine stock, but contemplate sending out the ECM for tuning. I still don't understand why it's not possible to just get different gearing with a custom rear drive sprocket. Seems to me the anti-traction relies on rim rotation speed. And just this mod could/would make enough of a performance difference that I'd be satisfied. (I personally could care less if the machine topped out at 120 or 100. I'm not looking for top speed, just "fun factor" down low. ~ And I rarely use 6'th gear anyways.)
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Originally Posted by Poseidon
So... where are all the performance upgrade threads? Who are the vendors that supply parts? Where are the dyno tuners and Rotex gurus that know where BRP hid the power? Where are the cams, high compression pistons, BBK's, turbo kits, supercharger kits, etc? You know, the stuff that makes fun bikes MORE fun!
Wanting to delete cat on my F3L and am looking at ebay site. a seller on ebay"" baldwinironworks selling ugly cat delete pipes for 100 bucks, stainless ..has anyone bought from these folks??
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I've had the MFI flash done to mine as well and I promise you, it's money WELL spent. The increased power is great but for me the biggest improvement is driveability with the improvements made in the lower end of the power band since I do a lot of city driving. Bang for the buck is very high with this mod!
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I own a RT and find the power output while not mind blowing and like some of the previous comments, I would have thought it should produce a few more ponies for the size of engine and revs, but generally speaking, I am happy with it. However I find the fuel economy not to be as good as I would have expected and if there was a tuning mod around, I would be interested. Compared to a modern 1300cc car around these days, cruising at 60mph, these cars are achieving high 40's. They are pushing heavier weights than the RT, carry more passengers, and have close to the same top speed, admittedly probably don't have the same acceleration, I am achieving high 30's mpg (US gallons) which I tolerate, but find a little disappointing. That's my comment on this, I certainly won't be rushing out to change the machine, I have many more miles to do and do hope that these engines are good for it long term. My only other comment is that CAN AM do need to think how one can gain access to the engine (particularly on the RT's), not the best to work on, most of your time is taken up stripping the bike down to get to the engine. Hate to think what is involved in replacing the air filter.
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On the newer RT''s the air filter is not too bad. Check the owners manual
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2014 RTS in Circuit Yellow, farkle-ing addiction down to once every few months. ECU FLASH IS GREAT.
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Here is the F-3 stage II RE-MAP results...it is FREAKIN FANTASTIC!!!...the low to mid range torque...is where the stage II shines...power off of the line..the stage I is good too..BUT...the stage II enhances it..the top end speed is about the same as stage I...the low to mid range torque again is where the stage II shines..
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I first had a cat delete pipe, then removed it after about two months. Only more noise.
I then had the ECU flashed to stage 2. It is a new bike!!! I now feel like I do not need anymore power. This change is just right for me. I am now very happy with my F3L. I can accelerate through Twisties with my 2 wheel mates.
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Maybe a little slow here, but after having the ECU is flashed, does that that 'shut down' for lack of a better description, the safety factor in the Spyder? Say, for example, going into a sweeper too hot, does the safety factor engage the machine?
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Originally Posted by bikerbillone
Maybe a little slow here, but after having the ECU is flashed, does that that 'shut down' for lack of a better description, the safety factor in the Spyder? Say, for example, going into a sweeper too hot, does the safety factor engage the machine?
Nope! There are no changes made to any of the "nanny"/safety systems... Tho I really wish it was possible! Mine cornered effortlessly and without intrusion except in the most extreme situations when new. Then there was an "update" applied at my first service (unbeknownst to me) and it all went to &*#$. Now it intervenes at medium input levels and really pisses me off that they can't "undo" it....
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OK, at 77, I guess I am one of these old people we are talking about. But even at a young age, riding in the mud made no sense to me and it still doesn't, but if that rings your bell - go for it. I have ridden bikes since I was 14 years old. My go to bike has always been a BMW - they were great machines and fast. But as I grew older (actually grew up) I then became a fan of Harley Davidson, but after a serious accident that scared the crap out of me, I converted to the Can Am which I love. My honest opinion is that if your need for speed is that great, then maybe a Can Am should not be your bike of choice.
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Took my RT LTD for the first time this season, running through the tank of gas I stored it with over the winter. On the way home, two up here at 5,000 feet where we are probably down at least 10% on full power, I gave it full welly on the freeway on-ramp. Running it up to max revs, it pulled quite quickly enough considering it is a touring type machine that weighs a 1,000 pounds. It certainly wasn't slow by any means.
The RT's brakes and power seem to be roughly in keeping with its handling capabilities. Significant increases in power probably would result in a less well balanced machine overall and I don't think the sales volume would increase as a result. In fact, increasing the capabilities of the machine to cope with more power, such better brakes, suspension and cornering performance would significantly add to the price of the machine. In addition, increasing the power of what is obviously a deliberately detuned engine would result in a shorter service life with decreased service intervals, which is important to most Spyder owners with a touring type machine.
If a faster, more powerful machine for sports riders was the objective, I suspect they would probably base it on the Ryker platform. With a lighter, more nimble, bike it could handle extra power from an increase in capacity and tune of the two cylinder engine coupled perhaps moving to a non CVT transmission. This would be a lot cheaper to produce than extending the performance of the Spyder platform and therefore be more accessible to younger riders especially considering its sportier looks. I rather feel that the current Ryker is aimed at the younger market segment anyways.
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Originally Posted by mecsw500
Took my RT LTD for the first time this season, running through the tank of gas I stored it with over the winter. On the way home, two up here at 5,000 feet where we are probably down at least 10% on full power, I gave it full welly on the freeway on-ramp. Running it up to max revs, it pulled quite quickly enough considering it is a touring type machine that weighs a 1,000 pounds. It certainly wasn't slow by any means.
The RT's brakes and power seem to be roughly in keeping with its handling capabilities. Significant increases in power probably would result in a less well balanced machine overall and I don't think the sales volume would increase as a result. In fact, increasing the capabilities of the machine to cope with more power, such better brakes, suspension and cornering performance would significantly add to the price of the machine. In addition, increasing the power of what is obviously a deliberately detuned engine would result in a shorter service life with decreased service intervals, which is important to most Spyder owners with a touring type machine.
If a faster, more powerful machine for sports riders was the objective, I suspect they would probably base it on the Ryker platform. With a lighter, more nimble, bike it could handle extra power from an increase in capacity and tune of the two cylinder engine coupled perhaps moving to a non CVT transmission. This would be a lot cheaper to produce than extending the performance of the Spyder platform and therefore be more accessible to younger riders especially considering its sportier looks. I rather feel that the current Ryker is aimed at the younger market segment anyways.
Well as long as this thread is again being posted to, what about the F3? I thought that it filled that gap as a lighter and lower machine! Put a HD anti sway bar and better tires on to increase capabilities. The 1330 has plenty of get up and go for the average riding. Have been on the planet for almost 8 decades, I still like to go vroom vroom on the on-ramps!
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2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
2018 RT Ltd Chrome - Champagne Metallic - Lake Stevens, Wa
(Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.
Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.
(Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.
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