Baja Ron Sway Bar Regrets

[MRH]

I put the sway bar on my Spyder on Monday, and took it out for about 200 miles of mostly canyon riding on Tuesday, and am feeling really regretful THAT IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO GET ONE THESE DAMN THINGS!

I kept hearing from everybody here how great it was, and how it would add stability to your ride, especially in the curves, and I just didn't believe it enough to fork over the cash and pay to have it installed.

37,000 miles that would have been even better, and easily worth both bars I would have needed to install (two Spyders over the last three years).

Yes, it's worth it. Thanks, Ron.

[Chupaca]

A happy die hard...glad you took the leap cause I can see the effect too...yor a happy camper. Didn't take me as long but I was a bit of a skeptic myself...after that I went a couple of steps further and wow again....enjoy your new ryde...

[jcspyder]

Took me 7K to come to my senses, but just as you said, couldn't be happier that I finally did it. Significantly improved stability and cornering, even on a 2014 RT.

[Pirate looks at --]

I put the sway bar on my Spyder on Monday, and took it out for about 200 miles of mostly canyon riding on Tuesday, and am feeling really regretful THAT IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO GET ONE THESE DAMN THINGS!

I kept hearing from everybody here how great it was, and how it would add stability to your ride, especially in the curves, and I just didn't believe it enough to fork over the cash and pay to have it installed.

37,000 miles that would have been even better, and easily worth both bars I would have needed to install (two Spyders over the last three years).

Yes, it's worth it. Thanks, Ron.

We told you so!

[Pampurrs]

I love reading these stories where someone had an epiphany after installing the BajaRon Sway Bar.

I made the decision to install mine right after I picked up my new from the dealer, and rode it 140 miles home through the twisties. Best thing I have done to the .

Pam

[fjcady]

will the baja ron hemi links work on the f3? thanks

[mrb]

will the baja ron hemi links work on the f3? thanks

Yes they will.

[Gonenuts]

After installing the bar I only had enough time for short night rides but on Sunday I went for a 5 hour round trip ride through a few canyons and highway speeds of 80 MPH. I'm a newbie with just over 1,300 miles on the bike but it just seem to click on Sunday and for the first time I smiled giving up the two wheels!

A new forum rule to signing up for this site should be; Change sway bar and send picture. Am I wrong?

[BajaRon]

will the baja ron hemi links work on the f3? thanks

I've had my Anti-Sway Bar called a 'Swap' Bar, a 'Swat' Bar, etc.

Poor Mr. Heim gets similar treatment. I'm not giving you or anyone else a hard time. It's not a big deal and I know most do not encounter these components very often, if ever.

Here is a short history on Mr. Heim's joint ends, or spherical rod ends as they are also properly called.

History of the "Heim" Joint The World War II era has been the product of many of inventions, which are still with us even today. When allied forces captured their first German planes, they discovered a strange and unique looking device pioneered by German aircraft designer, Messerschmitt… the now famous Spherical Rod End! A single United States firm, the H.G. Heim company, was contracted the exclusive opportunity to duplicate this new joint, and was granted all U.S. patents to this device. Still to this day the Spherical Rod End retains the nickname, "Heim Joint". When the Korean War was finally over, the surplus aircraft parts market literally took to the sky and numerous variations of rod end sources became available at a faction of their original cost when produced by the H.G. Heim company. While many of these rod ends were designed for aircraft, they simply were not up to the much more demanding task of handling the forces of the suspension links that race cars required. Economical, high quality rod ends did not appear until the late 1970's where they were produced by a Japanese company, called N.M.B., which the U.S. government caught selling their rod ends below cost into the U.S. market. N.M.B. bought a U.S. company, N.H.B.B. (New Hampshire Ball Bearing) in order to continue selling in the U.S. They continue to make aircraft-quality rod ends today. A U.S. company, Superior Industries, began to mass produce economical rod ends for the power transmission industry as the Heim patents ran out. Over the course of a few years people from Superior formed Aurora, National, and numerous other individual rod end companies. Today there are countless American companies producing rod ends in the U.S. These products cover all the bases from super-low cost stamped steel bodies used in control links for lawn tractors, to jet aircraft, land speed record cars, the space shuttle and nuclear submarines.

[kbwitt]

This an Item that BRP should be doing, probally would sell more cycles

[wiredgeorge]

This an Item that BRP should be doing, probally would sell more cycles

BRP/Can-Am already has installed an anti-sway bar and Heim (Hemi does sound better!) links. The anti-sway bar is inadequate as it is too thin and the Heim links are plastic (or something similar). What they could have done was to put a thicker anti-sway bar and metal Heim links from the factory AND used some quality front shocks. Instead they saved a few bucks and made their early RTs handle like a drunken pig. Oh yeah, align the Spyder properly before leaving the factory would help as well. The bright side is that all the Spyder handling deficiencies can be fixed rather easily with a dose of customer bucks.

Hey Can-Am... suggestion! Have a SPORT model for every model in the line up (except maybe the F3 which already has upgraded components and maybe the new ST... not sure). An RT Sport... charge $1000 more and put top grade shocks, front and rear, an adequate anti-sway bar and a laser alignment from the factory. Folks who are buying their second machine would eat this option up. I won't mention an upgrade tire option.... Kumho and Kenda tires on a motorcycle are considered junk by many experienced riders. I think the term low-bidder comes to mind.

[Pampurrs]

BRP/Can-Am already has installed an anti-sway bar and Heim (Hemi does sound better!) links. The anti-sway bar is inadequate as it is too thin and the Heim links are plastic (or something similar). What they could have done was to put a thicker anti-sway bar and metal Heim links from the factory AND used some quality front shocks. Instead they saved a few bucks and made their early RTs handle like a drunken pig. Oh yeah, align the Spyder properly before leaving the factory would help as well. The bright side is that all the Spyder handling deficiencies can be fixed rather easily with a does of customer bucks.

Hey Can-Am... suggestion! Have a SPORT model for every model in the line up (except maybe the F3 which already has upgraded components and maybe the new ST... not sure). An RT Sport... charge $1000 more and put top grade shocks, front and rear, an adequate anto-sway bar and a laser alignment from the factory. Folks who are buying their second machine wouild eat this option up. I won't mention an upgrade tire option.... Kumho and Kenda tires on a motorcycle are considered junk by many experienced riders. I think the term low-bidder comes to mind.

I agree with most of the above, with the exception of the part about aligning the Spyders at the factory. If I'm not mistaken, the alignment is performed by the dealer when they assemble the machines out of the crate. I would be in favor of BRP requiring the dealers to do a better job of aligning.

Pam

[wiredgeorge]

If alignment is dealer prep, it should be done properly at a dealer's... no argument there.

[BajaRon]

If alignment is dealer prep, it should be done properly at a dealer's... no argument there.

Alignments are done at the factory during assembly.

[3-togo]

Alignments are done at the factory during assembly.

Just curious, does installing the Bajaron Ron sway bar effect warranty if installed by dealer ? How about DIY ?
Pete

[OJ UK]

Just curious, does installing the Bajaron Ron sway bar effect warranty if installed by dealer ? How about DIY ?
Pete

No...it won't, assuming it's fitted correctly. Thousands have been fitted and if the there had been any warranty issues we would have known
by now.

[BajaRon]

Just curious, does installing the Bajaron Ron sway bar effect warranty if installed by dealer ? How about DIY ?
Pete

Never had an issue either way.

[dhawker]

We told you so!

Hey, I noticed in your signature line that your 2016 F3 Limited doesn't have the baja ron sway bar listed as installed. Are they not necessary on this model? I just purchased a 2016 F3 Limited myself that I plan on using 2 up to travel on, so I am curious if these are needed or not. I know the F3 T and Limited have the "Sachs big bore shocks" so not sure if that makes a difference or not.

Dalan

[Bob Denman]

The answer is: it depends on what YOU decide the bike might need...

[Sam Mac]

Alignments are done at the factory during assembly.

The factory alignment is a total joke. Someone needs to explain to me how something that is aligned properly can have as much toe out as it does form the factory. Took me about 5 miles to figure out that my 2014 RTL was aligned by someone doing drugs. Get your ride properly aligned and put the Baja Ron sway bar on it. I also recommend the Baja Ron shock adjusters. Just my 2 cents but I consider this to be a safety issue.

[Lastchance]

Hey, I noticed in your signature line that your 2016 F3 Limited doesn't have the baja ron sway bar listed as installed. Are they not necessary on this model? I just purchased a 2016 F3 Limited myself that I plan on using 2 up to travel on, so I am curious if these are needed or not. I know the F3 T and Limited have the "Sachs big bore shocks" so not sure if that makes a difference or not.

Dalan

All F3 models have the same sway bar part # 706202018 it's up to you if you think you need it or not, I thought my F3S did so I put one on.

[Pirate looks at --]

Hey, I noticed in your signature line that your 2016 F3 Limited doesn't have the baja ron sway bar listed as installed. Are they not necessary on this model? I just purchased a 2016 F3 Limited myself that I plan on using 2 up to travel on, so I am curious if these are needed or not. I know the F3 T and Limited have the "Sachs big bore shocks" so not sure if that makes a difference or not.

Dalan

Glad you are paying attention! You are correct, I have not put the Baja Ron Bar on the F3L. Lower center of gravity less body roll and better shocks. But that doesn't mean that I am not going to add one. I am still in the ryde it and see stage (just over 2000 miles). Honestly out of the box it does not need much! At the Nor-Cal Spyder Rally I am going to get it Squared Away with the laser alignment and see how that effects the handling. But even as hard as I ryde I am really happy with the ryde!

[SteveLaoyster]

Hi Guys! Eventually I would like to get a BajaRon sway bar on my RT-S that is getting delivered this week. I was told that it would have to be installed by a shop so as to not void the warranty. I'm wondering if this is correct or am I able to install it myself without any warranty issues? Thanks.

[Peter Aawen]

I'm pretty sure that as long as it's fitted correctly (& I reckon it'd be bloody hard NOT to be fitted correctly by anyone!!) then it won't void your warranty!!

But hey, for whoever came up with that one, good attempt at sucking you in to spending money with them...

[bcer960]

Hi Guys! Eventually I would like to get a BajaRon sway bar on my RT-S that is getting delivered this week. I was told that it would have to be installed by a shop so as to not void the warranty. I'm wondering if this is correct or am I able to install it myself without any warranty issues? Thanks.

I specifically asked my "Platinum BRP Dealer" if the sway bar, or me installing it would affect the warranty, and was told no.