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ST Throttle Body
I'm seriously considering buying an ST. However I'm a little worried that they use the same throttle bodies as the RT and those have been troublesome. Have the RT throttle body issues been resolved?
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I think that only time will tell. The latest (3rd version) update is supposed to be the cure. Unfortunately, many owners have not had that update yet, so some throttle bodies will continue to fail. I also suspect that there are some that were damaged previously, but not enough to throw a code, which may subsequently fail, despite having the latest update. I would urge all owners to check with their dealers and have their update status checked to bring their firmware up to date. The latest update has some other fixes, too, including the new shifting logic for the SE.
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Does the new shifting logic apply to all models? Is this to resolve the problem with clutch slip at under 3500 RPM?
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SpyderLovers Founder
Originally Posted by pro10is
Does the new shifting logic apply to all models? Is this to resolve the problem with clutch slip at under 3500 RPM?
The shift point has changed for all SE's to reduce clutch slippage under load. The new clutch with added plates and oil jet is for all makes and models and will also reduce heat and slippage. This update can be applied to all Spyder's from 2008 on.
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
The shift point has changed for all SE's to reduce clutch slippage under load. The new clutch with added plates and oil jet is for all makes and models and will also reduce heat and slippage. This update can be applied to all Spyder's from 2008 on.
That's great news. Is this going to be handled as just a service bulletin to dealers or are owners going to receive a letter? I'd like to get the software change applied to my bike to reduce the chance of clutch wear.
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SpyderLovers Founder
Originally Posted by pro10is
That's great news. Is this going to be handled as just a service bulletin to dealers or are owners going to receive a letter? I'd like to get the software change applied to my bike to reduce the chance of clutch wear.
I'm not sure how they will handle the software update, most likely it will be done at a service when BUDS is hooked up. I'm not even sure if it's a required update or not.
The clutch is not a recall so it will not be replace unless you want to pay to have it replaced. This is just an evolution of the product.
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Thanks Lamont! I'll check with my guy regarding this update over the weekend...
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
I'm not sure how they will handle the software update, most likely it will be done at a service when BUDS is hooked up. I'm not even sure if it's a required update or not.
The clutch is not a recall so it will not be replace unless you want to pay to have it replaced. This is just an evolution of the product.
Thank you for the info. I certainly didn't expect the clutch to be a recall but I was hoping the software update would be offered at no charge. My local BRP dealer charges $50 just to attach the BUDS cable and then charges a minimum of one hour's labor from there. So the software update change would cost me about $115.
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My software was updated as part of an oil change with no additional charges. Anyone know how much the new clutch retrofit would cost?
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Originally Posted by pro10is
Thank you for the info. I certainly didn't expect the clutch to be a recall but I was hoping the software update would be offered at no charge. My local BRP dealer charges $50 just to attach the BUDS cable and then charges a minimum of one hour's labor from there. So the software update change would cost me about $115.
My dealer hooked mine up for and reset the steering angle sensors for free. It only took a couple of minutes to do. Sorry, your dealer is so greedy.
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Originally Posted by arntufun
My dealer hooked mine up for and reset the steering angle sensors for free. It only took a couple of minutes to do. Sorry, your dealer is so greedy.
Greedy is one of his nicer traits!
I'll probably have to head over to Malone, NY to get it updated. The BRP dealer there is great.
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these updates that you are all talking about are these the ones that brp came out with at the owners event?
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I had two Throttle Body faults within two months of getting my RT. A new update, the latest, came out and was installed and no more faults since.
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Originally Posted by pro10is
Greedy is one of his nicer traits!
I'll probably have to head over to Malone, NY to get it updated. The BRP dealer there is great.
Who's the dealer up near Plattsburgh; they've got a pretty good reputation as well...
Maybe Mike can chime in with a name and phone number??
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