Factory Instructions for changing Oil and Filter

[Knarfoh]

Factory Instructions for changing Oil and Filter can be seen BY CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/pdf_files/spyder%20oil%20change.pdf)

[inmate1905]

Thanks for that information, it is really well spelled out. The parts cost about 35.00 plus the oil. This will save me money for sure.

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[Knarfoh]

Thanks for that information, it is really well spelled out. The parts cost about 35.00 plus the oil. This will save me money for sure.
I did a webpage to show you the tools you will need to assemble (bits, wrenches, etc.) if you do the change in accordance with the factory instructions.

CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/Oil_Change_Spyder/spyder_oil_change.html) to see the pictures.

CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/pdf_files/spyder%20oil%20change.pdf) to see the factory instructions.

[rcturner]

These instructions are old and no longer accurate. Since the new lower panel came out, most of the panel removal is no longer necessary. Also, the hole that was added to the vertical support now allows easier access to the filter bolts.

[inmate1905]

I heard that the oil could be drained from the underside by removing one plastic cover. I was going to attempt that first and use this as a fallback. But this shows the process very clearly.

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[fastfraser]

:agree: Old school oil change method unless you never received the new side panel .

[Silvervette05]

man that looks to much like work :sour:

[Wazoo]

1. Whoever thought up this design was clearly either hoping to sell a lot of replacement engines or devising a way to pump up income for the dealers.

2. Anyone, mechanics aside, who think this looks easy is nuckin futs.

[SPYD3R]

I did a webpage to show you the tools you will need to assemble (bits, wrenches, etc.) if you do the change in accordance with the factory instructions.

CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/Oil_Change_Spyder/spyder_oil_change.html) to see the pictures.

CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/pdf_files/spyder%20oil%20change.pdf) to see the factory instructions.

GR8 INFO PAL.... THX... :yes:

[Magdave]

My question is if you have the easy remove lower panel do you still have to take the top panel off? I can pop the rivets and get my black lower panel off in 5min. :dontknow: Lamont says 10 min for a change

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?43728-10-minute-oil-removal-with-new-panel-for-the-RT&highlight=lamont+panel

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49292&d=1342062408 (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1644&attachmentid=49291)

[rcturner]

[QUOTE=Magdave;719587]My question is if you have the easy remove lower panel do you still have to take the top panel off? I can pop the rivets and get my black lower panel off in 5min. :dontknow: Lamont says 10 min for a change

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?43728-10-minute-oil-removal-with-new-panel-for-the-RT&highlight=lamont+panel

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49292&d=1342062408 (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1644&attachmentid=49291)[/QUO


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[Magdave]

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So I am confused as to why the OP did not get the panel as Lamont said they gave them to everyone :dontknow:

[Barlock]

I did a webpage to show you the tools you will need to assemble (bits, wrenches, etc.) if you do the change in accordance with the factory instructions.

CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/Oil_Change_Spyder/spyder_oil_change.html) to see the pictures.

CLICK HERE (http://www.knarfoh.com/pdf_files/spyder%20oil%20change.pdf) to see the factory instructions.

Thank you for both of these.

[Knarfoh]

[QUOTE=Magdave;719587]My question is if you have the easy remove lower panel do you still have to take the top panel off? I can pop the rivets and get my black lower panel off in 5min. :dontknow: Lamont says 10 min for a change

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?43728-10-minute-oil-removal-with-new-panel-for-the-RT&highlight=lamont+panel

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49292&d=1342062408 (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1644&attachmentid=49291)
Which is the new panel? The one on the left or the one on the right? Question: Was I supposed to get the new panel last year when I got the new oil filter mod?

[Magdave]

[QUOTE=rcturner;719593]
Which is the new panel? The one on the left or the one on the right? Question: Was I supposed to get the new panel last year when I got the new oil filter mod?

The one on the right. Read the link I posted by Lamont it explains all. Which one does yours look like?

[gypsy_100]

[QUOTE=rcturner;719593]
Which is the new panel? The one on the left or the one on the right? Question: Was I supposed to get the new panel last year when I got the new oil filter mod?

A second benefit of the new panel assembly is that it's much easier to check your oil level and make additions. When you pull the side body panel for checking oil, the new black plastic grill also comes right out giving you better access to the oil filler plug/dipstick. Sounds trivial but every time I check the oil I appreciate it.

[jhutch713]

Where and how do you go about getting New panel ?

[ulflyer]

Where and how do you go about getting New panel ?

Your dealer should have installed it for free when you were there. If not, ask them about it. BRP provided the free upgrade a year or so ago. Some dealers required you to have an oil change done to get the new panels.

PS: ask to keep the left side grill as it will be replaced with a new one. With a little ingenuity you can mount it on the right side.

[jhutch713]

It was at dealer when I had my 1 st service at 1000. Miles. It wasn't change then. I didn't know about it at that time, they should have. I have stop by and inquire on upgrade panel.

[ulflyer]

It was at dealer when I had my 1 st service at 1000. Miles. It wasn't change then. I didn't know about it at that time, they should have. I have stop by and inquire on upgrade panel.

I'd be wondering if they changed the transmission filter..that is, if you have an RT SE. I call that sloppy or careless if they didn't advise of you the new panel and grill. Its prob not something they have in stock but it could be ordered.

[jhutch713]

I went by dealer today and was told no recalls or update on mine 2012 spyder RT. That I would have to call BRP to get a voucher for the replacement panel. Then they would order one and install it at no charge. But was told that it does not help any at all on doing oil change or to access to checking oil level. Any input on dealer comments greatly appreciated ?
Jim

[Magdave]

I went by dealer today and was told no recalls or update on mine 2012 spyder RT. That I would have to call BRP to get a voucher for the replacement panel. Then they would order one and install it at no charge. But was told that it does not help any at all on doing oil change or to access to checking oil level. Any input on dealer comments greatly appreciated ?
Jim
Did you read the link I gave you to Lamonster's post? If not do it the deal is full of male cow excrement . I would believe Lamont over any dealer.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...t=lamont+panel (http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?43728-10-minute-oil-removal-with-new-panel-for-the-RT&highlight=lamont+panel)

[jhutch713]

I must of have missed link. But read it now. Thanks for link again. I was thinking the same along the line of manure.

[NancysToy]

I went by dealer today and was told no recalls or update on mine 2012 spyder RT. That I would have to call BRP to get a voucher for the replacement panel. Then they would order one and install it at no charge. But was told that it does not help any at all on doing oil change or to access to checking oil level. Any input on dealer comments greatly appreciated ?
Jim
My dealer isn't thrilled with them. They have seen very little time savings. They did give me the option of switching mine out, but I remove all the panels when my change the oil to perform a thorough inspection, so a few more screws isn't a big deal. In fact, compared to the 39 screws on my BMW, the Spyder is a breeze.

[ulflyer]

Personally I like the new panel a lot. The grill lifts off and it gives more room to check the oil without skinning my hand (heart meds make skin very thin and it doesn't take much to tear), and with the lower panel off I find it easier to get at the transmission filter. Also, I do the changes for a couple of friends, one a lady and one disabled, and I wouldn't want to pull all the tupperware off their machines. Without the panel they'd have to go to the dealer to get it done. A little bit of convenience means a lot at my age! :D

If you're a do-it-yourselfer, email BRP for the voucher, or check with some other dealers who might still have one in stock. My dealer didn't have to have "vouchers" so I know some got the replacements without them.

On both these and mine, the belly pan has been permanently removed so thats something you'll want to consider doing.

[rcturner]

Personally I like the new panel a lot. The grill lifts off and it gives more room to check the oil without skinning my hand and with the lower panel off I find it easier to get at the transmission filter.


:agree::agree::agree:

[gypsy_100]

My dealer isn't thrilled with them. They have seen very little time savings. They did give me the option of switching mine out, but I remove all the panels when my change the oil to perform a thorough inspection, so a few more screws isn't a big deal. In fact, compared to the 39 screws on my BMW, the Spyder is a breeze.


Personally I like the new panel a lot. The grill lifts off and it gives more room to check the oil without skinning my hand

I, too, take all the panels off for an oil change to get a good look around and tighten the battery terminals. But I like the new panel. I do my changes with the bike on the ground and getting the old black panel out was always a real trick and getting it back in was worse. I have an SM-5; it may be easier on an SE-5 if the shift linkage is different. With the new panel, it's much easier to get it out.

And as I said in an earlier post and as ulflyer said, the trivial item of checking oil is much easier with the new panel and getting a funnel in there for additions is easier as well. Just my opinion.

[NancysToy]

I, too, take all the panels off for an oil change to get a good look around and tighten the battery terminals. But I like the new panel. I do my changes with the bike on the ground and getting the old black panel out was always a real trick and getting it back in was worse. I have an SM-5; it may be easier on an SE-5 if the shift linkage is different. With the new panel, it's much easier to get it out.

And as I said in an earlier post and as ulflyer said, the trivial item of checking oil is much easier with the new panel and getting a funnel in there for additions is easier as well. Just my opinion.
I do mine on the ground, too. I never had much trouble with the panel, but it does have to be flexed a bit to get it in and out.

[gypsy_100]

I do mine on the ground, too. I never had much trouble with the panel, but it does have to be flexed a bit to get it in and out.

Some people have talent. And then there's the rest of us! :)

[Knarfoh]

So I am confused as to why the OP did not get the panel as Lamont said they gave them to everyone :dontknow:

I did get the new panels. I wrote about it in another post. I did my oil change with the bike still sitting on the ground. I do not have lifts or ways to elevate my Spyder.

While the new panels give you access I still think removing the panels the old way allows you much more leeway to work on your oil change while allowing you to inspect your Spyder. Even my dealer says they still remove the panels the old way to do oil changes.

[Knarfoh]

I went by dealer today and was told no recalls or update on mine 2012 spyder RT. That I would have to call BRP to get a voucher for the replacement panel. Then they would order one and install it at no charge. But was told that it does not help any at all on doing oil change or to access to checking oil level. Any input on dealer comments greatly appreciated ?
Jim

Here's a link to the letter I received along with a copy of the voucher and the new pages for the manual.

http://www.knarfoh.com/pdf_files/BRP_Can_Am_Spyder_Revised_Maintenance_Schedule_red acted.pdf

My dealer says they still remove the panels the old way to do oil changes as it allows them more options in examining and viewing other parts of your Spyder. I see other posters have commented similarly and don't feel the new panels do a great deal to improve efficiency. A nice feature if you want to take advantage of it but there are reasons to still remove the panels.

[rcturner]

Don't forget that there is a hole to be drilled in the vertical support as shown in an old "Lamonster" thread. My dealer put it in for me and it make a huge difference.

[Magdave]

Don't forget that there is a hole to be drilled in the vertical support as shown in an old "Lamonster" thread. My dealer put it in for me and it make a huge difference.

I haven't done a change yet and plan on doing it. What was that hole for and does anyone know if the 2013's came from the factory with it pre drilled? I am going to take a WAG here and guess it is for a socket to go on a filter cover nut?:dontknow:

[rcturner]

I haven't done a change yet and plan on doing it. What was that hole for and does anyone know if the 2013's came from the factory with it pre drilled? I am going to take a WAG here and guess it is for a socket to go on a filter cover nut?:dontknow:

here is the link:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?25626-Tech-tip-for-changing-the-trans-filter-(RT-SE)&highlight=hole

[Magdave]

here is the link:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?25626-Tech-tip-for-changing-the-trans-filter-(RT-SE)&highlight=hole
:bowdown: I see now thanks