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For the Can-Am's running car tires, Are we on the "darkside"?

CloverHillCrawler

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So I recently joined a group on Facebook called Darkside Riders. I wanted to see what everyone was doing with their tires and made a post about my quatracs on the F3. It's funny the response I got from it.

While in general it had several likes but only a couple of comments which are gems. I thought since we switched from kenda motorcycle tires to car tires that would make all of us Can-Am people Darksiders as well.

Apparently a couple but not many disagree or just don't know we are running motorcycles tires as stock.

What do you think? If we are running car tires are we a darksider or not?

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No... A darksider is a MC rim with a car tire on it... We have a car rim with a Cheap car tire on it.. It says Special Motorcycle use so no one will use it on a car...
 
I just glanced at the Darksider member rule book :read: and in the Spyder chapter it states that you have to swap over to round motorsickle rubber to be even close to acceptable! :welcome:
No exceptions. :lecturef_smilie:
 
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SO, where do we find some of those? Hey Mike, can you help us out with one of those?:joke:
 
Yeah, I don't think ANYONE who has any real knowledge of tires & rims, except maybe a full-on BRP Kool Aid drinker, could honestly or seriously call the OEM Kenda tires 'real' Motorcycle Tires, even with the dodgy 'Special Motorcycle Use Only' label on the sidewall :rolleyes: They are in every respect a CAR tire, albeit not one of the greatest capability, strength, or quality of construction, but still a CAR tire; and the rims on both Spyders and Rykers are quite clearly and unarguably 'J' Type CAR rims too... :lecturef_smilie:

So NO, if you're running auto tires on your Spyder/Ryker, you aren't really a true 'Darksider'! :thumbup:

And to anyone who might value their life and well-being but still think it could be fun to fit a set of real MOTORCYCLE tires onto their Spyder/Ryker rims and go for a ride, I've only got one thing to say to that - DON'T!! :yikes:
 
I can say that I was one of those crazy guys to put a car tire on a motorcycle, my 2006 Triumph Rocket, and I loved it.

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Thanks for the clarification, as usual I seem to have landed in one of those grey areas that I tend to misinterpret and will promptly remove myself from that group.

Don't want any trouble from any of those darksiders. :roflblack:
 
RiderDuke said:
No... A darksider is a MC rim with a car tire on it... We have a car rim with a Cheap car tire on it.. It says Special Motorcycle use so no one will use it on a car...
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:agree: and I have said so many, many times on this Forum ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
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Peter Aawen said:
Yeah, I don't think ANYONE who has any real knowledge of tires & rims, except maybe a full-on BRP Kool Aid drinker, could honestly or seriously call the OEM Kenda tires 'real' Motorcycle Tires, even with the dodgy 'Special Motorcycle Use Only' label on the sidewall :rolleyes: They are in every respect a CAR tire, albeit not one of the greatest capability, strength, or quality of construction, but still a CAR tire; and the rims on both Spyders and Rykers are quite clearly and unarguably 'J' Type CAR rims too... :lecturef_smilie:

So NO, if you're running auto tires on your Spyder/Ryker, you aren't really a true 'Darksider'! :thumbup:

And to anyone who might value their life and well-being but still think it could be fun to fit a set of real MOTORCYCLE tires onto their Spyder/Ryker rims and go for a ride, I've only got one thing to say to that - DON'T!! :yikes:
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As usual :agree: 110% ..... even BRP REQUIRES auto type rims / wheels which have a " J " designation by the D.O.T. and they are the folks who decide what evry type rim / wheel has to be ...... Mike :thumbup:
 
CloverHillCrawler said:
Thanks for the clarification, as usual I seem to have landed in one of those grey areas that I tend to misinterpret and will promptly remove myself from that group.

Don't want any trouble from any of those darksiders. :roflblack:
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:lecturef_smilie: You'll forfeit your free 6 month balance and front end alignment check!!!
 

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Well your first problem: FB. Opinion however as a laid back casual ryder can’t say personally have problems with either, kendas did wear rather quickly mileage wise. Otherwise both black, round & fit - lets me ryde. :riding::riding::doorag:
 
Cobwebs said:
:lecturef_smilie:You'll forfeit your free 6 month balance and front end alignment check!!!
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I'll have to ask the guys at the dealership why my last alignment wasn't free and try to hold a straight face while doing so. :roflblack:

But in all reality they actually helped out greatly with getting my tire wear problem taking care of on my Quatrac's, I would mention them but I don't want BRP to come down on them.
 
I have 5 car tires and one Kenda(made by the bicycle, golf cart and wheelbarrow tire company) on my two Spyders, so in the fall or maybe sooner I will have 6 car tires on the two machines, when the most recent one gets a new rear tire. There really should be a investigation into the BRP/Kenda relationship and it's influence over it's authorized dealer network.
 
Weight is the major factor in tire traction. Car tires are designed for 3000+lb cars and the Spyders weigh less than half that. The Spyders are a one-of-a-kind vehicle and there aren’t going to be all kinds of aftermarket parts for them.

Just as a sport bike uses different tires to that of a big touring bike, a Spyder needs to use a tire made for its weight to rather than profile.
 
Snoking1127 said:
I have 5 car tires and one Kenda(made by the bicycle, golf cart and wheelbarrow tire company) on my two Spyders, so in the fall or maybe sooner I will have 6 car tires on the two machines, when the most recent one gets a new rear tire. There really should be a investigation into the BRP/Kenda relationship and it's influence over it's authorized dealer network.
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BRP - Kenda relationship is all about the money -----PERIOD .....I can't address the DOT laws in Canada .... but in the U.S. Harley Davidson uses regular Auto tires on their TRIKES.- LEGALLY .....Mike :thumbup:
 
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Flamewinger said:
You can but I won’t believe it as I’ve known a few that have tried it and hated it as it seriously changes the way a 2 wheeler rides.
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There are two reasons why this happens .... #1- auto tires do not have round treads & #2- to a lesser degree two wheel mtc's. have a different style wheel Rim......Mike :thumbup:
 
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