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Just When You Think You've Seen It All...
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JayBros
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What astounds me is the fact that, and I don't care how many rolling sneakers and stoppers one has under oneself, when one leaves the domicile one hangs an invisible but nevertheless valid sign around one's neck that that says, "I am a potential death statistic." When one lays out the coin of the realm we must for our owned or leased transportation and recreation and then neglects to spend the bucks to keep it maintained so it is not a hazard to oneself or others on the road, one is nothing more than a time bomb awaiting detonation.
BajaRon
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That depends a great deal on a number of factors, including pad quality, riding style, and vehicle weight. But I would say a swag might be 20k. Some manage to go through a set in less than 10k, others, on rare occasions, get close to 40k.
Using engine braking to slow you down makes a great deal of difference in longevity. This can also reduce brake fade in more severe conditions.
Something that a lot of people don't realize is that their brake pad wear rate is greatest when the pads are new. As the pads wear, the rate of wear slows, so that when you are at 1/2 the pad thickness, you have more than 1/2 of the pad life remaining.
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mecsw500
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I did not know that about brake pad wear rates, I must admit. Do you have any idea why that is, or is it just something you’ve observed? Is it because as the pad gets thinner, heat is transferred from the pad surface to the backing plate quicker as it has less pad material to transfer heat through?
BajaRon
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Very good! You are exactly right. With less distance to travel, the pad dissipates heat more efficiently to the backing plate. The caliper piston also moves some of the heat to the brake fluid. The last factor, to a lesser degree, is that over heat cycles, the remaining pad material continues to cure, making it less susceptible to further wear.
There's also a little bit more to this 'increased wear rate initially' thing, and it applies to new tires too!!
When they're new, both brake pads and tires, they haven't been placed under repeated/constant load, so when they get installed and that starts to happen, the material on both tends to pack down a little, at least for a while. For brake pads, it can take a couple of hundred miles before they 'bed in' properly; for tires, it can take a couple of thousand miles; but for both, it depends a little on the initial construction and material density! some performance pads & tires show a significant level of this 'increased initial wear rate', while others, generally harder/more durable pads and tires, tend to show it much less - but they ALL do it to some degree!!
So don't be too upset if your brake pads seem to wear rapidly in the first 1000 miles or so; or if your tires seem to wear really rapidly in the first 5000 miles or so - it's the wear rate AFTER that which is more important to watch in order to get some idea of how long those particular pads &/or tires are likely to last!
Thanks for the info. I have noticed the Spyder seems to slow more just on engine braking than any of the motorcycles I have owned. I don't know I'd it's a weight thing, more rubber on the road or wind resistance?
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