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  1. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    Ron, that's a question I can't honestly answer. I do know with 100% certainty that they did replace the original with a Yuasa. Apparently one of the other techs they were talking to was aware of a switch cluster issue but those symptoms couldn't be replicated on my machine. While I was on the...
  2. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    I just returned from my tour... it was shorter than planned but I still managed a good 2000 miles. During the trip I had no issues at all with what I had been experiencing... but now I'm reading threads about suspension faults. Wish me luck.
  3. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    The Spyder is back in my hands. The dealer said they were in contact with reps from France, Belgium, Quebec. They did a bunch of testing and found that my Throttle Position Sensor was way out of whack and reset it. I didn't ride it too much over the last couple of days but didn't have any...
  4. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    I received a text from the dealer, apparently they’ve been on the phone with the case rep for most of the morning and will be trouble shooting in the afternoon.
  5. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    Let’s have another update just for the fun of it! I got to the dealership just as they were opening. Fortunately I was able to replicate the problem in the parking lot. The tech came out and hooked up the computer and found…. Nothing :( He did think it was either the ecm or the switch cluster...
  6. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    Thanks for explaining the switch operation... that's probably caused some confusion for readers/posters who haven't seen the newest iteration. I'm off to the dealer this morning, I'm going to try and replicate things in their parking lot. And, yes, hopefully it will be simple matter of replacing...
  7. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    More tests, more results! Rolling through my underground parking I thought I'd give it another shot with the kill switch. Lo and behold it died and wouldn't start. When it shut down the screen was still active. I couldn't activate the park brake, but after a few seconds the park brake applied...
  8. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    I did a few rolling tests in my parkade. As every time this has happened to me it's been while rolling to a stop I kept my speeds low (12 - 15 km/h). 1) Quick bump up on the switch to towards the stop position with quick release back to centre/run position. 2) Deliberate switch to the stop...
  9. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    The battery is new, it is fully charged. I won't go into long drawn out details but believe me, I know all about modern motorcycle electronics and batteries. From my experience this is not a battery related issue. As for the kill switch, I'm not opposed to having them. In almost 60 years of...
  10. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    When it happens with me the kill/start switch does nothing. I just tried shutting down and restarting when parked and it worked with the parking brake on or off and in neutral or 1st... I'm going to try some rolling tests here shortly and will post my findings.
  11. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    As stated above the dealer has replaced the battery with a Yuasa.
  12. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    Please explain what has happened on the RTL when the that happened and what you did. Did you have to disconnect the battery? Did the machine die? Did it restart right away?
  13. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    There's no easy answer here. Last time I was at the dealer they were talking about opening a case with BRP if it happened again. I'm supposed to be leaving on it for a 2 week tour in 6 days, I doubt there will be anything that my dealer or BRP will be able to do in such a short time frame. I'm...
  14. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    Sooooo... My dealer installed a Yuasa battery and was 100% confident it was a low voltage issue. It just happened again. Very slight brush of the kill switch and the whole thing is dead in the water. The electronics DO NOT shut down. When I turn the key off the screen is immediately black (no...
  15. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    I’ve futzed with the switch enough. It works fine. So, you say others have posted the same thing… those are the folks I’m hoping will chime in. I’m looking for a way to reset the electronics without disconnecting the battery.
  16. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    They’ve looked at it and found nothing. It’s intermittent… if they can’t replicate the problem (they can’t) then how can they fix it?? No possibility of voiding the warranty. Nothing is modified from stock. It’s no different than adding a lead on to the battery for gps or battery charging.
  17. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    I've mentioned this in another thread a while back, this is an update after a second occurrence. The almost identical set of circumstances were at play both times: Slowing to a stop behind other traffic. At some point I take my hand off the throttle and when reaching back for the bars slightly...
  18. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    A visit to dealer came up with the unsurprising conclusion of no one knowing what happened. The Spyder has been running just fine for the last two days, that’s all that really matters. Hopefully it was just a one off. In a previous life I was a heavy equipment operator. Doing a power off reset...
  19. Graderman

    First ride after adding seat gel hoping for more comfort, but nope, no change! What to do? Anybody made theirs better?

    Well troop, I’ve decided to go with the Russell. I’ve been very happy with the previous two I had so why not? By the luck of the draw I managed to get a ride-in appointment for June 19th. I’ve had Sunbrella and graphite vinyl on my other seats and was happy with both. I’m undecided which way...
  20. Graderman

    What just happened? Two weeks old: Engine shut down, VSS Error.

    I checked my battery and yes, it is the el cheapo unit as listed above. The Spyder did start right away though and didn’t throw any codes. I did check for any that were stored and found: ‘Lost Connection With Cluster’. I had a spare battery terminal nut and bolt handy so went ahead and installed...
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