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Automatic suspension adjustment - "Manual" warning
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Your ACS sensor is out of limits or the ACS link is disconnected. Check the link first, on the left side of the swingarm. If the link is intact, the button should still work if the solenoid or compressor has not failed... just hit it again once the bars and "MANUAL" warning are displayed. If you recently had a cluster replacement or your Spyder is new, the problem is in the factory setup of the sensor limits. Your dealer can recalibrate the sensor. If the release solenoid has failed, you will need to release some air manually and disconnect the compressor. Check the air pressure at the Schrader valve under the seat; and release some pressure if it is 80-100 pounds. If it raises up again after you start the Spyder, release the parking brake, and put it in gear, then your solenoid has probably failed.
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doublenaughtspy
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Just took my 2012 RT back to the dealer last week to fix the same issue. When I consulted the green manual, it indicates that this is a fault code. Noticed that I was not hearing the air readjust like I normally did. Turns out I had a relay issue, replaced that and it's working fine now.
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finless
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Scotty, I don't have a manual yet. Is there a pic or drawing where this sensor is and the button to test it?
Thanks,
Bob
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
The button resides on the switch panel of the Spyders with automatic (electric) suspension control. It is the one you use to adjust the suspension. The lower models don't have that or the ACS sensor. The sensor and link are right above the front part of the swingarm on the left side. You can't miss them.
yanksskins
New member
This happens when I take my wife on a bumpy road. It's the 20-amp fuse blown. If you look, there will be a few things not working like the horn, heater grips, and fog lights...
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garageguy
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On my first ride of my 2015 RT-S Series, the Manual warning indicator appears when trying to adjust the rear suspension. I hear the compressor, but the suspension doesn't adjust. I checked the Schraeder valve pressure, and it was over 90psi, so I reduced it to 70 psi and Manual still appears. I guess from what I'm reading, I need a sensor recalibration and to check the ACS link. Is there anything else I can try?
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robmorg
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If you get that "manual" message, and you don't hear the pump working, it could also mean that you had a leak in either the bag or one of the lines, which overworked the pump and wore it out. That's what happened to me. I needed to replace the bag, an airline, and the pump. Thankfully all were under warranty.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
The OP probably has the problem solved. The OP dates back to 2013, so is a bit out of date.
robmorg
New member
:roflblack: Yep, this happens often. A new member will revive a years-old thread, and then someone (this time me
pps
, sees it without looking at the date and thinks, "Hey, that just happened to me, too". That said, the thread may be old, but unfortunately the problem is not. It's all too common on the RTL's, even today.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
:roflblack: Yep, this happens often. A new member will revive a years-old thread, and then someone (this time me
That said, the thread may be old, but unfortunately the problem is not. It's all too common on the RTL's, even today.
Welcome to the been there, done that, I have the t-shirt club. Which one of us will be first--the next time? :roflblack::roflblack:
What a coincidence! Very bumpy road + passenger. Thought the compressor or airbag had failed. Saw your post and checked 20A fuse. Sure enough, it was blown!
Replaced and system working just fine. Saved a (long) trip to the dealer.
Again, many thanks!
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Mikey
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Well, for whatever reason they didn't put a Schraeder valve on that model, but it would not do you any good because the system would just dump it out at the first bump in the road! That system works on a set ride height that is put into the computer. Now I don't know if you could go to the dealer and have them adjust it up a bit or not, but it would be worth the time to check it out. The other thing you could do is get a Schraeder valve and make it a manual fill system, simply by going straight from the bag to the Schraeder valve, only put it somewhere you can get to it if you ever want to adjust it or check your pressure. I find that I only check mine when I feel it's getting soft. It will act like a tire; it will gain and lose pressure with the temp of the air. If yours is all of a sudden getting soft, you've probably got a compressor problem, or your little arm has disconnected from the height sensor on the left rear swing arm! Good luck.
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LongIsland
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You have a schrader valve, this is from your 2023 F3 Ltd Owners Manual page 63. If you don't have a manual you can view it on brp's web site.
"The air spring is connected directly to an air hose with a schrader valve located under the seat"
Peteoz
Well-known member
As Mikey says, even though the manual refers to a Schraeder valve, several have reported no valve, LongIsland. Whether this occurs at manufacture or at dealer assembly, no one really knows.
Regardless, if you do have an auto airbag and a Schraeder valve and add air, the airbag will simply disregard it and auto pump to the psi it believes you need, based on weight. About the only use for a Schraeder on an auto air bag Spyder is to allow you to add a FOBO reader to check the ongoing operation of the bag/pump.
Pete
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