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How do you determine your head Shape when buying a helmet?

JimH

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Well I know this can open a bunch of jokes at my expense - but here it goes. When buying a helmet how can you determine the shape of your head - round oval, intermediate oval, or long oval. I know about measuring around your head to find the Sm/Md/Lg size, but the shape is more confusing on things I read.
Thanks,
Jim
 
Hi Jim. It is confusing. You have to try some on your head. I found the Aria full face oval fit me perfectly. Price is a consideration though.
The less expensive helmets may not offer an oval option. In 3/4 or half it is less of an issue as long as it is comfortable. I ended up with an LS2 Valiant modular. When closed, it is a little closer to my chin than I want, but the fit was really good. It will take time and trying on helmets everywhere you go. If you are mutant, it will take even longer. Good luck and have patience. Ask strangers if you can try on their helmet. It's a good ice breaker.
 
Go online to Revzilla and look at helmets. Look at various helmets you might like and their specs, including what kind of coconut(s) they are designed to fit, round or oval. Then go to a motorcycle shop and try them on. Take some kind of very thin coconut cap/cover to wear when trying them (so you don't muck up brand new helmets) and take a good book. When you find a helmet/s you like, put it on, and wear it for at least 30-45 min (read the book) to be certain that it's comfortable. FWIW, I had an HJC budgeted when I bought my Spyder. It gave me an instant splitting headache (made for round coconuts); so I tried a Shoei Neotec - which was a perfect fit (made for oval coconuts) and worth the additional cost. I am now wearing a Neotec II, the most comfortable helmet I've ever had, going way back to the mid-seventies.
 
If you get a helmet that is just a tiny bit too tight, it will stretch a certain amount to keep it from putting pressure on certain areas. Just as hats can be reblocked, helmets can be srtretched to a certain extent. It does not damage the helmet, it only slightly reshapes the padding on the inside by compressing it. I have compressed the padding in the forehead area on a few helmets that fit too tight and were causing headaches. Eventually, the padding would probably adjust anyway as the helmet gets broke in for your head, but nobody wants a headache every time you ride for a month or two. For $10 to $15 there are basic hat stretchers available on the web. I don't recommend wetting the area for a helmet, like you can do with felt or leather hats, but just placing a hat stretcher inside the helmet for a few days will releave pressure in tight areas. You could just cut a correctly curved piece of wood and put it in the tight place with a C-clamp for a helmet.
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I've been carrying Arai helmets since 1998 and yours is a very good question. One that most never ask. Most simply buy the helmet that looks the best without regard to protection. If the helmet does not fit correctly, your protection is quite small.

Being in the fire service, I went to more than one motorcycle accident where the rider was over here and their helmet was over there. Some lost their helmet upon initial impact. That is because 70% of riders are wearing a helmet at least 1 size too large. People do not like a tight fitting helmet. But if it does not fit tightly, there is a very good chance that it won't stay on your head in an accident. Sounds absurd, but is a fact.

The truth is, once you get used to a correctly fitting helmet, you'll never go back. There is also a correct way to don your helmet. Done wrong, it will want to shear your ears off. Done right, it's a breeze.

If you shake your head and your helmet does not stay centered on your face, it's too big. If you can grab your helmet at the base at the back, pull up and forward and it starts to come off your head, it's too big. 70% represents a great many riders.

You can get an idea of your head shape by just looking at it. There is no perfectly round head so a Round Oval helmet will still be somewhat longer front to back than side to side. But as the front to back ratio increases, you come to the Intermediate Oval head shape which is where the lion's share of heads reside. A further increase in the front to back ratio moves you into the Long Oval or Football head shape.

A new helmet should fit tight as the padding will conform to the shape of your head after a few hours of wearing it. If the helmet is a 'Perfect' fit new, it will be too lose when the padding settles in. When I get a new helmet, I sit and watch TV with it on my head. You can imagine the ribbing I get from family. But this allows me to find any 'Hot Spots' that might need adjustment before I get out on the road with no opportunity to make any necessary changes.

Going to a dealership and trying on helmets is not a bad idea. However, be aware that they are there to sell you a helmet. They may not be all that knowledgeable. And it is hard to find a dealership that carries good quality (more expensive) helmets because that's a lot of capital tied up in inventory.

It is also a good idea to get a helmet that has replaceable cheek pads and headliner. Many do these days, but not all. You don't need the most expensive helmet out there to get good protection. But it's not a good idea to cheep out on a helmet. Cheaper helmets will not give you the same protection and tend to break down quickly and need replacement. A good helmet will last a long time.

You can tell a lot about a helmet's quality by the materials used in the shell.

And I always put in a plug for full face helmets. For 1 very good reason. If you're wearing a helmet for protection, you're giving up a lot with a 3/4 (0r less) version.

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I just went through the whole sizing thing when my modular helmet came apart. Plus, the helmet I had was more round than oval and always put pressure on my forehead. I measured my head and, once I found out what type my old helmet was, I started looking for an intermediate oval. I got fitted with an ARAI Helmet (Corsair) locally which is an intermediate oval. I didn't want to spend that much though, and they don't, to my knowledge, make a modular.

From there I began my search, and decided on a LS2 ADVANT X MODULAR. It's the best and most comfortable helmet I've ever worn. It does everything I wanted and more. I ordered it from an online vendor because no one local had one. I took a chance. Like Ron, before I took it outside or went riding I wore it around the house for 2 days, off and on, in different temperatures. After that I determined it was a keeper. And boy was it.

The link I posted earlier helped with determining which helmet to choose.

The other part of the story was color. I wanted high visibility. I didn't want neon, so I choose white. It's very noticeable. I remember giving my Brother crap about his white cop like helmet. At that time I was riding Harleys and everything had to be black (Idiot!) I've evolved from those days. Now my Bro can give me a ribbing. He was right & was wrong.

Take your time (it took me a couple of weeks) to research helmets. Glad I did.
 
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start by measuring directly above your eyebrows with tape measure the circumference of your head.
A typical helmet store will have a conversion chart to show if sm,med, or large.
 
+1 on a white helmet. Your helmet is the most visible part of your gear. Use it to help people see you. It drives me crazy to see so many new riders buying a black helmet as their first.

Oval, intermediate-oval, etc classifications can only get you in the ballpark. Even within a brand, there may be variations on how their int-oval helmets fit. You won't know until you've had it on your head for a while. Wear it in the store for 30 mins or more as recommended above to eliminate any that aren't right to start with. Wear it at home for hours to provide further break in. As mentioned, yeah, your family will have a lot of fun. Just go with it. And even then, understand that it may take a few hours on the road. I started out on a multi-week trip with what I thought was a broken in helmet. An hour or two down the road I was in pain and wondering what I was going to do. Two hours after that it was all good (amazing what a little heat and sweat can do) and I wore that helmet comfortably for years.

Many quality helmets have different sizes of pads that can be switched out to provide a better fit.

Another test to add to Ron's list to ensure a snug fit - if the skin above your eyes doesn't move when you move the helmet, it is too loose.

Also +1 for Ron's graphic and encouragement for a full face helmet, modular or solid. I'm a modular fan (currently Shoei Neotec II after a few HJC modulars). The convenience is wonderful.
 
I just went through the whole sizing thing when my modular helmet came apart. Plus, the helmet I had was more round than oval and always put pressure on my forehead. I measured my head and, once I found out what type my old helmet was, I started looking for an intermediate oval. I got fitted with an ARAI Helmet (Corsair) locally which is an intermediate oval. I didn't want to spend that much though, and they don't, to my knowledge, make a modular.

From there I began my search, and decided on a LS2 ADVANT X MODULAR. It's the best and most comfortable helmet I've ever worn. It does everything I wanted and more. I ordered it from an online vendor because no one local had one. I took a chance. Like Ron, before I took it outside or went riding I wore it around the house for 2 days, off and on, in different temperatures. After that I determined it was a keeper. And boy was it.

The link I posted earlier helped with determining which helmet to choose.

The other part of the story was color. I wanted high visibility. I didn't want neon, so I choose white. It's very noticeable. I remember giving my Brother crap about his white cop like helmet. At that time I was riding Harleys and everything had to be black (Idiot!) I've evolved from those days. Now my Bro can give me a ribbing. He was right & was wrong.

Take your time (it took me a couple of weeks) to research helmets. Glad I did.
You're right, Arai does not make a modular helmet. Good advice in these posts. Helmets should get more attention than they do. And PDXRTL is right. Though they tend to stay within a range, there is no industry standard for the different head shapes. Even within the same brand there can be variance between models.

And brands change. A Shoei might fit you now. But your next one in 5 years might not. Helmet buying should be easier. But more than any garment, fit is paramount.

 
Trying them on is the only way to know for sure. I've bought my 2 helmets online and both had to be modified even though the measurements and shape was what they recommended. I'll buy local next time.
 
Best place to go for a helmet - Cycle Gear! Largest selection of helmets I have ever seen. And the best part? They will take it back. Wife and I both did this. Bought the same helmets we thought were a good fit. Brought them back no question! We then upgraded to top of the line helmets. Her, a Schuberth. Me, a Neotec.
 
If you get a helmet that is just a tiny bit too tight, it will stretch a certain amount to keep it from putting pressure on certain areas. Just as hats can be reblocked, helmets can be srtretched to a certain extent. It does not damage the helmet, it only slightly reshapes the padding on the inside by compressing it. I have compressed the padding in the forehead area on a few helmets that fit too tight and were causing headaches. Eventually, the padding would probably adjust anyway as the helmet gets broke in for your head, but nobody wants a headache every time you ride for a month or two. For $10 to $15 there are basic hat stretchers available on the web. I don't recommend wetting the area for a helmet, like you can do with felt or leather hats, but just placing a hat stretcher inside the helmet for a few days will releave pressure in tight areas. You could just cut a correctly curved piece of wood and put it in the tight place with a C-clamp for a helmet.
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Good idea. I never thought of that one. And I even have the gadget. (y) (y)
 
If you get a helmet that is just a tiny bit too tight, it will stretch a certain amount to keep it from putting pressure on certain areas.
My first motorcycle was a red 1982 Yamaha Seca 550, which I bought from a friend who was the owner of the Yamaha shop.
I bought a matching red helmet, but it was a bit tight, and caused some pain on my forehead.
His recommendation was to pull back the interior padding so you can see the harder foam underneath, and use a baseball to reshape the foam slightly, just a little bit at a time, and then test fit.
It took less than an hour to have a comfortable helmet.

I don't know if that would work with a modern helmet, as I haven't tried looking under the padding.
 
My first motorcycle was a red 1982 Yamaha Seca 550, which I bought from a friend who was the owner of the Yamaha shop.
I bought a matching red helmet, but it was a bit tight, and caused some pain on my forehead.
His recommendation was to pull back the interior padding so you can see the harder foam underneath, and use a baseball to reshape the foam slightly, just a little bit at a time, and then test fit.
It took less than an hour to have a comfortable helmet.

I don't know if that would work with a modern helmet, as I haven't tried looking under the padding.
Yes, the modern helmets I have looked under the inner layer still have some crushable foam. The foam is there to help absorb the initial, immediate shock. I don't know if all the modern helmets have it, but the ones I checked did.

My kid absconded with all the baseballs, bats, gloves, and other sports parphenalia when he moved his stuff out of my house after he got married. I had a hat stretcher, but no baseball. Just a little bit of force with the hat blocker was enough to keep from getting a headache because of pressure on my forehead wearing the new helmet for several hours.
 
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