What are the differences between a 2023 vs a 2024 RT?

[Fjrwillie]

Does anyone know the difference between the 2023 and 2024 RT?

Willie

 

[troop]

Primarily display unit and handlebar controls.

 

[LongIsland]

From what I've read the '24 has Apple Car Play that doesn't work.

 

[racoon]

From what I've read the '24 has Apple Car Play that doesn't work.

The 2024 was supposed to have Apple Carplay, but CAN-Am removed it due to some issues.

 

[ARtraveler]

Don't forget the higher price on the 24. Less for more seems to be the current trend.

If this is to determine a 23 or a 24, I would always go with the "older" new one. You should be able to make the best deal there. Those that will not budge from the original price because it is still new...well...run from them. They are out to take your money and run.

 

[WRCLVR]

Since I have both a '23 and '24 S2S, to me the new-type handlebar controls are a bit busy. The seating is almost identical. The handlebars on both will need looking at if you have short arms, NOTE, the '24s have newer type handlebars and may need to be ordered. Our '23 is the green version with shiny paint... the '24 has the white flat finish that may need extra care in washing etc. There are some flat-type protectant products that will maintain it.

Our '23 has had zero issues. The BaJaRon Ultra swaybar fits nicely. As will other performance products. The '24 spent almost 3 months at the shop getting diagnosed for screen and coding issues. It took the dealer 2 months to convince BRP to swap the faulty cluster out, and another month to get a replacement screen in. Now that works, BUT it still won't have Apple Carplay or AA (it has been 11 months since BRP listed it/promoted it and 3 months since they released/took the update back).

I would not hold my breath. Just go for a new 2023 S2S or RTL or F3 and be done with it.

 

[BajaRon]

The 2024 was supposed to have Apple Carplay, but CAN-Am removed it due to some issues.

Yes, like they didn't have a license from Apple to use it. Kind of puts a dent in the whole thing.

There are some previously Plug & Play aftermarket items that don't work on the 24's, like the Pedal Box and Pedal Commander. I don't think this was by accident, but then I'm a suspicious kind of guy. BRP has attempted to sabotage a good number of mods over the years with the newer models. The aftermarket usually recovers, in time. But at additional cost.

 

[racoon]

Yes, like they didn't have a license from Apple to use it. Kind of puts a dent in the whole thing.

Nothing I've found on the Apple websites mention any kind of licensing agreement, nor the need for the vehicle manufacturer to pay Apple anything in order to provide Apple Carplay support.
According to this site Carplay is available on more than 800 vehicle models:

https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/available-models/

And these are the motorcycles with Carplay support:

https://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/s...cles-offering-apple-carplay-and-android-auto/

There are some previously Plug & Play aftermarket items that don't work on the 24's, like the Pedal Box and Pedal Commander. I don't think this was by accident, but then I'm a suspicious kind of guy. BRP has attempted to sabotage a good number of mods over the years with the newer models. The aftermarket usually recovers, in time. But at additional cost.

I am not a suspicious type, so I tend to think that while changes from year to year may cause aftermarket accessories not to work correctly with the new models, I don't think the changes were intentionally done in order to sabotage any 3rd party products.


I hope you don't take my disagreement personally, as I eventually intend to show up on your door step with my 2024 Spyder for a sway bar upgrade.

 

[Peteoz]

Nothing I've found on the Apple websites mention any kind of licensing agreement, nor the need for the vehicle manufacturer to pay Apple anything in order to provide Apple Carplay support.
According to this site Carplay is available on more than 800 vehicle models:

And these are the motorcycles with Carplay support:

I am not a suspicious type, so I tend to think that while changes from year to year may cause aftermarket accessories not to work correctly with the new models, I don't think the changes were intentionally done in order to sabotage any 3rd party products.

I hope you don't take my disagreement personally, as I eventually intend to show up on your door step with my 2024 Spyder for a sway bar upgrade.

Those of us who have been around Can Am and BRP for many, many years have had the opportunity to see BRP’s performance in the real world first-hand, Racoon. It is not exemplary, with their lack of customer focus and frequent shortcuts plaguing, and in some cases, endangering owners - and Ron has been around BRP longer than most. We have all seen changes made that have appeared to target some third-party accessory products specifically, especially those products where BRP has its own accessory available. This practice is not limited to BRP however, but it happens in the real world.

I don’t know how CarPlay licensing works, but I would be very surprised if Ron, with his many contacts, was not on top of the reasons behind its failure on the Can Am's :thumbup:

Pete

 

[Fjrwillie]

Thanks all for your responses. The Apple Carplay is not a concern to me. I don't own any Apple products and interfacing Android (if possible) is not of interest to me.

Again thanks
Willie

 

[mbranscum]

Difference? About $7000 difference between a new '23 RTL and a new '24 RTL.

 

[racoon]

There's another thread that discusses the Apple Carplay issue:

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums...wnload-was-released-but-failed!-Still-waiting

 

[jfischer]

The 24s also do not have an external FM antenna anymore, so it looks a little cleaner. I have no use for FM so can't say if the reception is any worse on the 24s but would think it must be compromised a bit.

 

[BajaRon]

Nothing I've found on the Apple websites mention any kind of licensing agreement, nor the need for the vehicle manufacturer to pay Apple anything in order to provide Apple Carplay support.
According to this site Carplay is available on more than 800 vehicle models:

https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/available-models/

And these are the motorcycles with Carplay support:

https://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/s...cles-offering-apple-carplay-and-android-auto/


I am not a suspicious type, so I tend to think that while changes from year to year may cause aftermarket accessories not to work correctly with the new models, I don't think the changes were intentionally done in order to sabotage any 3rd party products.


I hope you don't take my disagreement personally, as I eventually intend to show up on your door step with my 2024 Spyder for a sway bar upgrade.

Not a problem at all. Never will be.

 

[jfischer]

Nothing I've found on the Apple websites mention any kind of licensing agreement, nor the need for the vehicle manufacturer to pay Apple anything in order to provide Apple Carplay support.

That is what I've found as well. I think it's more likely that BRP's head unit vendor simply cannot provide sufficiently bug-free code to BRP. I don't think BRP actually created the head unit or writes the software for it, but I could be wrong.

I know it "works" for the most part as I had it for a day or so back in April when it got released. It's not like the hardware isn't sufficiently adequate to run it. There were no problems with the display, or interface speed, anything like that during my trial run with it.

 

[Fjrwillie]

All my music is via blue tooth from 4000 song library i have in my phone to the bluetooth unit in my helmet. So with the antennae or without makes no difference to me. But thanks for pointing that out.

Willie

 

[safecracker]

24's also do not have passenger radio controls.