Bob Denman
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cuznjohn
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just watched this on the news again. the motorcycle guy was a wise guy. he did kick the car. but the guy in the car was the real jerk. he tried to knock the biker off his bike. that is when the biker slowed down and the driver of the car lost control, started to skid, over compensated, then all hell broke loose. then when he hit the poor truck, that poor person really loss it and flipped. SO I HAVE TO SAY that all the blame has to go to the guy in the car. i have cursed people out on bikes, but never hit or kicked them. in cars i am something else. i really need to think. i will admit i once put a van on a center divider for cutting me off then flipping me off. after i did it there were so many people that saw me do it that i had to stop. i felt bad and said i was sorry, but when he saw the size of me, he said he was sorry first and tried to shake my hand. i just thought it best to get back in my car and drive away. now when i drive i try to remember two things, 1 being i have vanity plates, so anyone can remember my plate very easy. and 2 being something my ex once told me when i flipped out one day. she said, HEY REMEMBER YOUR NOT WHOI YOU USED TO BE ANYMORE, SOMEONE IS GOING TO KICK YOUR A$$ ONE DAY. the B***H was right
Slowpoke387
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Funny i saw it as the the moron kicks the car, THEN the idiot tries to hit him. Def not all the idiot's fault.
Bob Denman
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RinconRyder
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You are correct of course but I fully understand his frustration. What isn't shown on the video is the car cutting off the bike as he moved into the HOV lane. This is a frequent occurrence on freeways as drivers often don't bother to look for bikes. I'm also guessing the car didn't use their signals either and further infuriated the biker. In any event the biker didn't use good judgement in kicking the car as he could well have suffered fatal injuries when the driver swerved into him.
I used to use a different technique. I kept a small number of "steelies" (what we used to call ball bearing marbles) in my riding jacket and if someone would tailgate or drive in an aggressive manner around me I'd simply flip one over my shoulder as I hit the gas. It always worked to back them off although I never hung around to find out. I wouldn't try that with the Spyder though - not enough accelleration and/or handling to get away. In my old age I have found defensive driving to be the better method. Simply don't put myself in a position for some dumb cluck to run me over. And treat all cage drivers as the idiots most of them are.
Bob Denman
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It's best to not provoke the idiots... nojoke
Or the morons either!
What you need: situational awareness! :shocked:
Or the morons either!
What you need: situational awareness! :shocked:
SteveLaoyster
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:agree:that they were both jerks. But my question is is why was the car going into the HOV lane? There was just the driver in the car.
Best to just back off & call the cops complaining about an aggressive driver. Dash cams come in very handy for this.
Best to just back off & call the cops complaining about an aggressive driver. Dash cams come in very handy for this.
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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HEY HEY, someone cut off the guy on the bike, he could have gone down initially. the biker was pissed maybe because the car didn't wave
to apologize we don't know. yea the bike kicked him to let him know but then the car tried to kill him by running him into the wall.
think of it this way for the gun guys out there: someone tries to rob you, your gun is on the bike or in your car, he takes your wallet then runs away, are you going to go get your gun & try to chase him down or just call the police. if you are going for your gun then what do
you think might happen?
to apologize we don't know. yea the bike kicked him to let him know but then the car tried to kill him by running him into the wall.
think of it this way for the gun guys out there: someone tries to rob you, your gun is on the bike or in your car, he takes your wallet then runs away, are you going to go get your gun & try to chase him down or just call the police. if you are going for your gun then what do
you think might happen?
RinconRyder
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In CA, as here, it is legal to drive in the HOV lane during certain hours of the day/night (other than designated rush hours).
As for your second comment.....that old adage that cops are never close by when you need one. Complaining about an aggressive driver (unless there were multiple 911 calls) would not be pursued because of lack of resources. Too many idiot drivers. Not enough LEO's. We've had circumstances here where dash cam's have video'd the perps and sent to the cops but because it was not witnessed by an LEO nothing was done. And, it is very difficult to ID a specific driver when only the back of his/her head is recorded.
Bob Denman
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I think that I would feel heartfelt sympathy for that loser's surviving family members... nojoke
"Situational awareness" means NOT getting caught bu surprise! :thumbup:
mowin
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So what. After the initial incident, Both were going down the road straight as a arrow for quite a distance. The rider should have backed off. PERIOD.
Instead he chose to attack the driver. He caused the accident. I hope he fries...
RinconRyder
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Tough to say who caused the accident.
The kick could have surprised the cage driver and he jerked the wheel. Unlikely though as most bikes would make enough noise the cage driver could not have ignored its presence.
Or, the cage driver could have road raged on his own and tried crashing the bike. This would be my choice. He obviously over corrected and took himself into the center barrier.
The only person I feel sorry for here is the pickup driver who was completely innocent.
Odds are that biker will never be found.
BTW, are cage drivers in NOO YAWK still backing down off ramps?
mowin
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Doesn't matter if the kick surprised the driver or not. Fact is if the rider would have kept his cool, and backed off, it wouldn't have happened.
As far as backing down off ramps.... Yes spotted a driver doing just that the other day. But I'm sure other states aren't immune to the same crap. We just might have more idiots... :roflblack:
As far as backing down off ramps.... Yes spotted a driver doing just that the other day. But I'm sure other states aren't immune to the same crap. We just might have more idiots... :roflblack:
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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yes "and if woody had gone to the police this would have never happened". don't blame the biker alone when he is the one who was
said to have been cut off. he was part of it but not the origin.
i blame dmv, they give a license to anyone citizen or not, illegal or not, reads or speaks english or not.
Easy Rider
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No it is NOT. :yes:
Absolutely, positively the bike rider is the immediate cause of the crash.
Regardless of what happened before, it does NOT give him license to do something dangerous and illegal.
Easy Rider
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The problem with that IS......
WAY too many people think that once they decide to move into an open space, they think that by some magic of telepathy every other driver in the vicinity is supposed to know that. It often is total BS because everybody has equal rights to that space until it is occupied. A driver who uses his signal and the moves over into a space in another lane has not "cut off" the guy who is charging along at 20 over and ignores the lane change signal.
Often the one who claims to be "cut off" really is the one at fault.
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