COOLMACHINE
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BahaRon
BahaRon, just wondering, do you know if soda would be a better test liquid?
BahaRon, just wondering, do you know if soda would be a better test liquid?
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Carry extra gas - new Gas Can
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fencepost
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Gas Can
This gas can was designed for the Harley saddlebag which I thought was a great idea. Last year when my wife, (Spyder RT) and I (Harley Streetglide) were on the Blue Ridge she got somewhat concerned about fuel. When I ordered this gas can I found it fit like a glove in the Harley saddlebag and then tried it in the Spyder RT, GoldWing 1800 and 1500 and found that it fits just fine in all of them. I filled the gas can with fuel and stood it on its' pour spout cap for 2 hours and not one drop of fuel leaked. For those of us who hit the roads less traveled this is the ticket that should get you to the next fuel stop without any problem. I would suggest that when you fill the can you turn it up on its end to ensure it will not leak. The locking cap has to be TIGHT or it will leak.
This gas can was designed for the Harley saddlebag which I thought was a great idea. Last year when my wife, (Spyder RT) and I (Harley Streetglide) were on the Blue Ridge she got somewhat concerned about fuel. When I ordered this gas can I found it fit like a glove in the Harley saddlebag and then tried it in the Spyder RT, GoldWing 1800 and 1500 and found that it fits just fine in all of them. I filled the gas can with fuel and stood it on its' pour spout cap for 2 hours and not one drop of fuel leaked. For those of us who hit the roads less traveled this is the ticket that should get you to the next fuel stop without any problem. I would suggest that when you fill the can you turn it up on its end to ensure it will not leak. The locking cap has to be TIGHT or it will leak.
TicketBait
RT-S PE#0412
another question ?
When I ride to spyderfest, I am gonna carry this in the trailer, It holds
2 1/2 gallons. If I was to run out of fuel, I know people talk about fumes,
but if I was to run out, does the bike start to sputter or do you instantly
shut down??
And when you are putting the new gas you carried with you is
there anything else you have to do, or it will just start up no problem?
When I ride to spyderfest, I am gonna carry this in the trailer, It holds
2 1/2 gallons. If I was to run out of fuel, I know people talk about fumes,
but if I was to run out, does the bike start to sputter or do you instantly
shut down??
And when you are putting the new gas you carried with you is
there anything else you have to do, or it will just start up no problem?
bruiser
New member
I think I saw these at my dealer. I'll check into it tomorrow. I'm not fond of carrying fuel cans anyway and I would not carry this in the right side bag on my RTS. Too much heat from the exhaust. Some of the back roads here in NC are devoid of gas stations. So it might just work to carry one of these. I'd have to see one first. I'm also a retired volunteer firefighter/emt.
Dochands
Member
Everyone is right and everyone is wrong.
The fuel cell Mr Orange is using is certified for race cars. It is the same sort of technology used in aircraft. It is very safe actually.
You can't test a gas can with water. Period. Use gasoline. Put a liiner underneath it and test it that way. The Rotopax cans are each specifically designed for the material they carry. Each uses different materials to be safe for the product it is meant to contain. They make water, kerosene, diesel and gasoline carriers.
Everyone be safe. Just don't try to cut corners carrying something explosive like gasoline,
The fuel cell Mr Orange is using is certified for race cars. It is the same sort of technology used in aircraft. It is very safe actually.
You can't test a gas can with water. Period. Use gasoline. Put a liiner underneath it and test it that way. The Rotopax cans are each specifically designed for the material they carry. Each uses different materials to be safe for the product it is meant to contain. They make water, kerosene, diesel and gasoline carriers.
Everyone be safe. Just don't try to cut corners carrying something explosive like gasoline,
wyliec
New member
Dochands,
I believe you were one of the first to mention Rotopax and to purchase. Weren't you thinking of mounting in the trunk? Have you mounted it yet?
I'm thinking of purchasing the Rotopax, which is why I ask.
Padre Spyder
New member
:agree:
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I'm sure these tanks will work just fine without leaking. But I have to say here, that water IS NOT gasoline! :yikes:
For a number of reasons, water is not necessarily a good test for gasoline retention.
In other words, just because the water didn't leak does not necessarily mean gasoline won't leak.
A little birdie told me this.... that and a lot of years in the fire service!
:agree: Plus, who the heck wants to sit on their bike for 3+ hours without a break?
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I agree...and sorry to those who like these, I don't see them as neat ideas...if you are going to travel, bags are great for clothing and such...
Also, those bags are not rated to hold the weight of gallons of gas...
If someone wants to travel 400 miles without stopping on a bike, have fun...I like to take breaks and move around...I see it as a waste of space, but that's me...to each their own.
If I am riding in an area where there isn't a gas station for 150 miles, that's my own fault...for those who live in areas that are so remote that they have to ride a bike to make their own electricity, this is a great idea...however, I'd rather get a helicopter!
Firefly
Active member
When I ride to spyderfest, I am gonna carry this in the trailer, It holds
2 1/2 gallons. If I was to run out of fuel, I know people talk about fumes,
but if I was to run out, does the bike start to sputter or do you instantly
shut down??
And when you are putting the new gas you carried with you is
there anything else you have to do, or it will just start up no problem?
I use those kinds of cans at home and those things will leak-- especially when bouncing around in a trailer. I would at least spend $30 and buy one like the original poster of this thread has....
GeminiJane
New member
I carry an Aerostitch siphon kit (about 3 inches by 5 inches by 1 1/2) and practice standing on the side of the road looking pathetic. I also carry cookies - so when I stop every 150 miles for gas I can snack:thumbup:
TicketBait
RT-S PE#0412
Thanks for the advice Firefly, I got this once at a gas station when I ran out of gas for my car.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
A gallon of gas weighs seven pounds. This is less than half the rated weight capacity of the rear bags.
I used to always carry a siphon hose...a remnant of my old enduro days. The trouble these days is that modern cars have anti-siphon/roll-over valves, so you need to flag down a biker to swipe some gas.
Symptoms when you run out of gas!
To answer your question, here is my experience with running out of gas with my Spyder RT:
I was exiting a freeway
ray: to make it to the nearest gas station when the engine slowly lost power and I coasted to a stop on the side of the ramp. Not a panic situation since I immediately knew what was happening. If I had a manual transmission I would have pulled in the clutch and coasted further, but with an SE5 the engine braking didn't allow me to coast very far. Hiked to the nearest gas station and back, put a few litres in the tank and it fired up immediately.
I have run out of gas on two wheelers and found I could always squeeze a few hundred meters out of the engine by shaking the handlebars and leaning the bike in different directions. Unfortunately with the stance of the Spyder, when the engine starts to die no amount of gyrations sqeezes any more fuel into the fuel injectors.
When I ride to spyderfest, I am gonna carry this in the trailer, It holds
2 1/2 gallons. If I was to run out of fuel, I know people talk about fumes,
but if I was to run out, does the bike start to sputter or do you instantly
shut down??
And when you are putting the new gas you carried with you is
there anything else you have to do, or it will just start up no problem?
To answer your question, here is my experience with running out of gas with my Spyder RT:
I was exiting a freeway
ray: to make it to the nearest gas station when the engine slowly lost power and I coasted to a stop on the side of the ramp. Not a panic situation since I immediately knew what was happening. If I had a manual transmission I would have pulled in the clutch and coasted further, but with an SE5 the engine braking didn't allow me to coast very far. Hiked to the nearest gas station and back, put a few litres in the tank and it fired up immediately.I have run out of gas on two wheelers and found I could always squeeze a few hundred meters out of the engine by shaking the handlebars and leaning the bike in different directions. Unfortunately with the stance of the Spyder, when the engine starts to die no amount of gyrations sqeezes any more fuel into the fuel injectors.
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
I've run out of fuel on my bikes and my Spyder and it's not fun. If you ride where I ride at the speeds I ride you have a pretty good chance that you're going to come real close to running out of fuel more than once on a trip and about a 10% chance you will run out of fuel at some point.To answer your question, here is my experience with running out of gas with my Spyder RT:
I was exiting a freeway
I have run out of gas on two wheelers and found I could always squeeze a few hundred meters out of the engine by shaking the handlebars and leaning the bike in different directions. Unfortunately with the stance of the Spyder, when the engine starts to die no amount of gyrations sqeezes any more fuel into the fuel injectors.
On one of my trips from Sturgis to San Diego I had to add the 2 gals that I had with me and almost ran out again before I made it to a station. There was a heat wave that knocked out the power in three towns and there was nobody pumping fuel. Folks were camped out at the pumps and pulled over on the highway out of gas. I made it up and over the last hill on a prayer and coasted into the station on fumes. I filled up my Spyder and my 2 gal can and never needed it again for the trip back but I was glad I had it.
You can read about it here http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=44160&postcount=1
Dochands
Member
Not enough room in the trunk and I am not sure where else might be good. Their mounting brackets are very secure and fairly flexible in placement but we have such a unique vehicle I cannot figure out where to put them. I have asked in a separate post for ideas. My thought was to make some sort of saddlebag that the Rotopax mounts could be attached to. Then I could throw it over the back seat. Attach the pax and be good to go. I have looked online at existing throwover saddlebags thinking I could sacrifice their bags and adapt them for my needs. No luck there so far.
The swing arm and support struts by the rear wheels are another potential location if the brackets were permanently attached. My concern is the distance from the ground of the tanks once mounted. I am not sure that needs to be a concern or how much ground clearance would be enough should I go that route. They make an L bracket mounting plate and a Universal 2 pack plate as well as just a single pack mount.
Wish I was more clever. lol
I have put one half of the two part tank into the trunk but thats awkward. And clearly they will fit easily in my trailer.
The swing arm and support struts by the rear wheels are another potential location if the brackets were permanently attached. My concern is the distance from the ground of the tanks once mounted. I am not sure that needs to be a concern or how much ground clearance would be enough should I go that route. They make an L bracket mounting plate and a Universal 2 pack plate as well as just a single pack mount.
Wish I was more clever. lol
I have put one half of the two part tank into the trunk but thats awkward. And clearly they will fit easily in my trailer.
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
If I were trying to find a place to store spare fuel on the RS, I would go with the BRP/Givi bags. Sturdy mounts, not prone to the bouncing and possible breaking that a swingarm mount would be, and plenty of room for extra fuel, clothing, donuts, etc. They are removable, including the racks, so you can retain that swoopy look for Saturday night rides to bike night.
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