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DOT HELMET STANDARDS

SPYD3R

SPYD3R

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Occasionally on SL, we'll have questions on helmets... people ask which are the best, etc...
my answer always was, "if it has a DOT sticker on it, it means it meets the gov't standards"...
i no longer think this way after reading various articles such as these:

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/20...lmet-standards-explained-dot-ece-22-05-snell/

http://www.bikersrights.com/nhtsa/fmvss218.html

http://silodrome.com/snell-vs-dot-vs-ece-r22-05-helmet-standards-throwdown/

diesel-helmet-x-ray.jpg


After educating myself, i'll be looking at helmets from a completely different perspective... hope you do too....
SPYD3R
 
Thank You

Super good info: everyone who values
their head and what is inside it should
read this.
thanks for posting
MC Dave

SPYD3R said:
Occasionally on SL, we'll have questions on helmets... people ask which are the best, etc...
my answer always was, "if it has a DOT sticker on it, it means it meets the gov't standards"...
i no longer think this way after reading various articles such as these:

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/20...lmet-standards-explained-dot-ece-22-05-snell/

http://www.bikersrights.com/nhtsa/fmvss218.html

http://silodrome.com/snell-vs-dot-vs-ece-r22-05-helmet-standards-throwdown/

diesel-helmet-x-ray.jpg


After educating myself, i'll be looking at helmets from a completely different perspective... hope you do too....
SPYD3R
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Hi SPYD3R,

Re: "if it has a DOT sticker on it, it means it meets the gov't standards"...

I spent 30 yrs employed by the US gov't. in contract management. One of my primary functions was enforcing 'gov't standards' and accepting certifications. You get a little numb after awhile.

IMO far too many gov't. agencies accept certifications without any effort whatsoever to determine if they are valid.

Their mindset ( again IMO ) is that if it has a signature it is OK.

Can you spell horsepuckey?

Jerry Baumchen
 
Meets Government Standards

Well, most politicians also meet "government standards," so I am not so sure if that is a positive or not.

Seems these days the standards are pretty low. ;)
 
Spyder3 what did you see that has caused you look at things different, and what are you going to do differently?
 
SNELL is the highest standard. Above and beyond DOT. They are an independent testing agency Typically, only full face helmets get both the DOT & SNELL ratings.
 
ECE surpasses DOT and Snell and is pretty much the standard for bikes. ECE is the only one of the 3 that does abrasion testing.

Keep in mind that just because a helmet isn't Snell rated doesn't mean it wouldn't pass. Snell currently will not pass helmets with internal visors or modular helmets, even if they would physically pass the tests. Many manufacturers forgo Snell testing because due to the cost to test.

http://shorecyclesusa.com/blog/2016/5/24/dot-vs-snell-vs-ece

Personally, I worry more about the type of helmet I wear vs the certification (full face vs open face vs 1/2). It's been proven that the cheeks/jaw/facial area is the most common area for damage in a crash.



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WHAT

pegasus1300 said:
Spyder3 what did you see that has caused you look at things different, and what are you going to do differently?
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WHAT CAUSED ME....
read the post from DREWNJ which is 2 below yours, Drew has the perfect answer as to why i'm giving way more consideration to helmets....
SPYD3R
 
JerryB said:
Hi DrewNJ,

Re: ECE surpasses DOT and Snell

I am not familiar with ECE, could you provide some more info?

I used to keep up with this stuff, not much so more.

ANSI still has their Z-90 standard: http://standards.globalspec.com/std/437430/ansi-z90-1

ANSI is recognized thoughout the engineering world for all kinds of standards.

Jerry Baumchen
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Here is a good read with a link that has all the regulation 22 info. The actual download reg will surely put you to sleep....[emoji1]
http://billyscrashhelmets.co.uk/ece-22-05-regulation-22-testing-crash-helmets/

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Hi DrewNJ,

Re: Here is a good read

Thanks for the link; I might just spend a night reading all of it.

However, when the article says: They test helmets in a few funky ways under a few even funkier conditions.

they get me to wondering what the real testing is. :shocked:

Thanks,

Jerry Baumchen
 
ruralgirl said:
Bob, did this depiction come with an explanation as to why the two helmets have different numbers? Other than the helmet on the left being smaller, they seem identical. Are we to assume that size alone can create different levels of protection (between identical helmets) among the various areas that they differentiated for evaluation?
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Same helmet, different sides.
 
ruralgirl said:
So why the different values? Why would the left side protect differently than the right side?
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This is a depiction of where helmets are impacted during collisions, not where they're test impacted nor the impact resistance. It would be good to know where the data comes from but it looks like the right side takes more hits than the left side. This would kind of make sense if the data is all from right hand highways and so many of the collisions are with cars coming from the right.

I didn't add them up but the total of all the percentages should be right at 100%.
 
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