H7 HEADLIGHTS

[effgjamis]

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[Spydyr]

I don't know about these but if it's too good to be true it probably is. I just bought a pair of Heliolite 9006's for my car ($29.99) and I replaced them with a set of PIAA 9006's($50.00) and at the same rated wattage and temperature the PIAA's are definitely brighter.

 

[steven888]

hid look

Don't waste your time or money. I have done plenty of research and tried all kinds of bulbs. The blue bulbs you see on that ebay add are coated in blue. They give a look of hid when you are looking at the headlight at night. All though the beam from the light is very weak because of the dark blue coating and if you look at them in the day you can't even see them. Also you won't have great visability from them. They don;t have enough watts to do the job they claim they do. If you want the look of hid then get HID lighting. I have the brightest bulb you can get that gives off a extreme white light. It is made by PIAA bulbs. I think they are called extreme white PIAA H7. They cost about 50.00 to 60.00 dollars per set.

 

[nickcaro]

I have had great experiences with the Silverstars and PIAA bulbs in other bikes. I primarily support the Silverstars just because the price is lower and I never had one burn out on me.. If you are not ready to go for the real H.I.D, don't waste your efforts on knock offs..

 

[araneae]

Don't waste your time or money. I have done plenty of research and tried all kinds of bulbs. The blue bulbs you see on that ebay add are coated in blue. They give a look of hid when you are looking at the headlight at night. All though the beam from the light is very weak because of the dark blue coating and if you look at them in the day you can't even see them. Also you won't have great visability from them. They don;t have enough watts to do the job they claim they do. If you want the look of hid then get HID lighting. I have the brightest bulb you can get that gives off a extreme white light. It is made by PIAA bulbs. I think they are called extreme white PIAA H7. They cost about 50.00 to 60.00 dollars per set.

Since light output is measured in Lumens why doesn't PIAA publish how much light energy they really put out in Lumens? I'd really like to know. Their website says they put out 110 watts of light but only use 55 watts. Those are power consumption numbers or heat if you will and have little to do with light output. The Osram (Sylvania) Hyper H7 has 2100 Lumens output and uses 65 watts The SilverStar H7 has 1500 Lumens of light output at 55 watts. You can find this information at suvlights.com and osram.com.

 

[NancysToy]

Since light output is measured in Lumens why doesn't PIAA publish how much light energy they really put out in Lumens? I'd really like to know. Their website says they put out 110 watts of light but only use 55 watts. Those are power consumption numbers or heat if you will and have little to do with light output. The Osram (Sylvania) Hyper H7 has 2100 Lumens output and uses 65 watts The SilverStar H7 has 1500 Lumens of light output at 55 watts. You can find this information at suvlights.com and osram.com.

PIAA and other manufacturers failure to publish the lumens figures bothers me, too, especially at their price. Comparing wattage numbers means absolutely nothing, just as with fluorescent vs. incandescant light bulbs. Some people seem to get the idea better that way, however. You have to advertise to the way people think. I will say that in practice, the PIAA bulbs are not only whiter, but definitely brighter. When I installed a PIAA in my BMW RT, I could see considerably farther up my dark street, without adjusting the headlamp. Whether that is because the color is not "sucked up" as readily, or there are actually more lumens available, I do not know, but the things do work. Very obvious when two bikes are ridden together and one has PIAAs. Road signs are visible much farter at night, for instance, with the PIAA equipped bike.
-Scotty

 

[Latemarch]

The H7 Osram uses 65W of energy and is said to perform well against the PIAAs. (Also cheaper and last longer)
Any thoughts on running 65W instead of 55W thru the wiring harness? (What's 10W among friends?)

 

[Lamonster]

I ran the brighter bulbs for years on my other bikes and thought those were as good as it gets till I put No Magic's HID's on my Spyder. Those things are the bomb.:yikes: I now have them on my 109 too. nojoke

 

[araneae]

The H7 Osram uses 65W of energy and is said to perform well against the PIAAs. (Also cheaper and last longer)
Any thoughts on running 65W instead of 55W thru the wiring harness? (What's 10W among friends?)

I've been using the Osram Hyper H7 65W in my Spyder with no issues and they are a big improvment over the standard H7 bulbs. I plan to go with HID when I have the extra cash.

 

[LonnieD]

I wouldn't waste my money on PIAA. They are good quality but cost way too much for what you get. I'm a big Hella fan myself. Been using their stuff for over 30 years. A good source is http://www.rallylights.com/. They also have a bunch of other neat stuff.

 

[NancysToy]

The H7 Osram uses 65W of energy and is said to perform well against the PIAAs. (Also cheaper and last longer)
Any thoughts on running 65W instead of 55W thru the wiring harness? (What's 10W among friends?)

The total extra draw for two bulbs is 20 watts, thats nearly 2 amps. Depends a lot on how the Sypder is wired. There is no fuse on the lighting circuit, and we don't know the wire or fusible link (circuit breaker?) size on the lighting circuit. The relay is certainly heavy enough at 30 amps. Stock lights pull 9.1 amps, the Osram bulbs would pull 10.8. Theoretically, the lighting circuit should be set up to handle about 125% of the actual load, so if the Spyder circuit is designed for 15 amps, as it should be, the new bulbs would cause no problems. I would have to see a wiring diagram and the actual wire size/circuit protection to be certain.
-Scotty

 

[araneae]

The total extra draw for two bulbs is 20 watts, thats nearly 2 amps. Depends a lot on how the Sypder is wired. There is no fuse on the lighting circuit, and we don't know the wire or fusible link (circuit breaker?) size on the lighting circuit. The relay is certainly heavy enough at 30 amps. Stock lights pull 9.1 amps, the Osram bulbs would pull 10.8. Theoretically, the lighting circuit should be set up to handle about 125% of the actual load, so if the Spyder circuit is designed for 15 amps, as it should be, the new bulbs would cause no problems. I would have to see a wiring diagram and the actual wire size/circuit protection to be certain.
-Scotty

I've got the schematic so I'll take a look at it tonight and let you know.
Bryan

 

[steven888]

PIAA

Since light output is measured in Lumens why doesn't PIAA publish how much light energy they really put out in Lumens? I'd really like to know. Their website says they put out 110 watts of light but only use 55 watts. Those are power consumption numbers or heat if you will and have little to do with light output. The Osram (Sylvania) Hyper H7 has 2100 Lumens output and uses 65 watts The SilverStar H7 has 1500 Lumens of light output at 55 watts. You can find this information at suvlights.com and osram.com.

I know they say the PIAA have 4000 kelm also how sunlight is measured. The higher the kelm the coser to sunlight the bulbs appear. If you noticed the PIAA bulbs and silver stars have a very light blue coating. The other bulbs that claim to have 5000 kelm are dark blue and that is why you lose alot of light. Again I have the PIAA bulbs in my ACURA MDX and my SPYDER and the difference is easy to see. If you buy them try one and turn on your lights. You will see what I mean.

 

[Putt-Putt]

Don't waste your time or money. I have done plenty of research and tried all kinds of bulbs. The blue bulbs you see on that ebay add are coated in blue. They give a look of hid when you are looking at the headlight at night. All though the beam from the light is very weak because of the dark blue coating and if you look at them in the day you can't even see them. Also you won't have great visability from them. They don;t have enough watts to do the job they claim they do. If you want the look of hid then get HID lighting. I have the brightest bulb you can get that gives off a extreme white light. It is made by PIAA bulbs. I think they are called extreme white PIAA H7. They cost about 50.00 to 60.00 dollars per set.

I agree :agree: I've tried them all on my car. Those cheap blues actually were worse than the stock lights. I'm am now running PIAA extreme whites. They are only a little better than stock, Not worth the $85 I spent for them.
Now I don't know what :dontknow: Toyota is using for stock lights in the Tundra, but they are FAR BETTER than any lights I've ever had. They have incredible reach & even cover the sides of the road better, WAY better than even the PIAA's. You can travel 70 to 80 mph and see far enough ahead to be able to stop safely in time say if a deer is on the road or something. The only lights to beat them are aircraft landing lights, and not by much. They are illegal, and yes I've had several of them.

 

[Putt-Putt]

Don't waste your time or money. I have done plenty of research and tried all kinds of bulbs. The blue bulbs you see on that ebay add are coated in blue. They give a look of hid when you are looking at the headlight at night. All though the beam from the light is very weak because of the dark blue coating and if you look at them in the day you can't even see them. Also you won't have great visability from them. They don;t have enough watts to do the job they claim they do. If you want the look of hid then get HID lighting. I have the brightest bulb you can get that gives off a extreme white light. It is made by PIAA bulbs. I think they are called extreme white PIAA H7. They cost about 50.00 to 60.00 dollars per set.

:agree: I've tried a lot of different lights in my car. Most were actually worse than stock. I now have the PIAA's extreme whites and they are only a little better than stock. Not worth the $85 I spent.

I don't know :dontknow: what Toyota uses for stock lights in the Tundra ,But they are the BEST lights I've ever had. They are WAY better than the PIAA's. They are just incredible. Twice the reach, and side of the road coverage. You can drive safely at 70 to 80 mph.
The only lights that beat them and not by much are aircraft landing lights. Yes they are illegal, And I've had a few of them too.

I tried to delete this post but it wont.

 

[effgjamis]

Needless to say, the responses I got were very informative and educational..

Thank you all for your contribution:

 

[NancysToy]

The only lights that beat them and not by much are aircraft landing lights. Yes they are illegal, And I've had a few of them too.

I had the aircraft landing lights on a hot 63 Mopar once. Just on the brights. They would light up half the state. Only trouble was they pulled so much juice the circuit breaker would kick out after a few minutes, leaving me totally in the dark. You could travel over 125 mph down the slab and see far enough not to outdrive your lights...until they quit. They would give the Spyder charging system quite a workout. Better to stick with the HIDs if you want daylight on the Arachnid.
-Scotty

 

[araneae]

The total extra draw for two bulbs is 20 watts, thats nearly 2 amps. Depends a lot on how the Sypder is wired. There is no fuse on the lighting circuit, and we don't know the wire or fusible link (circuit breaker?) size on the lighting circuit. The relay is certainly heavy enough at 30 amps. Stock lights pull 9.1 amps, the Osram bulbs would pull 10.8. Theoretically, the lighting circuit should be set up to handle about 125% of the actual load, so if the Spyder circuit is designed for 15 amps, as it should be, the new bulbs would cause no problems. I would have to see a wiring diagram and the actual wire size/circuit protection to be certain.
-Scotty

I looked at the schematic and the headlight circuit has a 30 amp fuse located under the seat. The wiring is 16AWG from the fuse to the headlights.
Bryan

 

[NancysToy]

I looked at the schematic and the headlight circuit has a 30 amp fuse located under the seat. The wiring is 16AWG from the fuse to the headlights.
Bryan

Never thought to look at the maxi fuses under the seat, since most auto have fusible links or circuit breakers. Thanks. Guess I have to get a service manual when the new ones come out. Wire size requirements are very different for 12V vs. 110V applications. Part of the wire size also depends on if it is bundled, and how far it runs. The requirements aren't set in stone quite as well as they are with the Electrical Code. 110V would require #10 wire under that code. By most tables for 12 volt applications, #16AWG wire should hold 30 amps up to 7 feet. It appears the Spyder meets that requirement, barely. Since the 65W bulbs pull less than 15 amps a pair, there should be absolutely no problems. May be some additional heat produced, however, and the plastic housings may suffer eventually.
-Scotty

 

[Latemarch]

There's 14awg leaving the fuse and then it splits into two 16awg wires. One for the headlights and one for all the other lights.