Having difficulties properly Filling the gas tank!

[vito1943]

It must be related to the interior shape of the gas tank, but when filling my 2021 RT, even with controlling the fuel flow to a modest level, the pump clicks off far before the tank is full. Today when putting gas in, the pump clicked itself off at 3.6 gallons added. I gently kept the pump going, holding the nozzle just barely into the tank opening. Without spilling a drop I was able to add another full gallon of gas, and probably could have added a bit more if I had been more patient. I admit that this is not an issue unique to Spyders because my former ride, a Honda Goldwing, reacted somewhat the same. Just a nuisance but on a long trip in places where gas stations are few and far between, having a truly full gas tank rather than a mostly full gas tank could be of real consequence.

 

[Woodaddict]

YEP, GOTTA BE CAREFUL. Inlet is not at top of tank, allows for some air space. I will put nozzle maybe 1" in, let it click off. Then, maybe 25-30 mini squirts to bring level up to bottom of inlet ring, by having nozzle out of ring. 2 handed operation, but gets me more gallons in tank to go farther

 

[bigbadbrucie]

Nothing new there, Vito1943.....my 2014 RTS is exactly the same and always has been. Patience boy, patience.....that’s the key to filling the tank.

 

[SLICE]

I use a ford emergence fuel funnel cut down.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I've been filling my 14 RT tank that way since I bought it .... I usually get 1.3 gal more in the tank doing it this way .....Mike :thumbup:

 

[2dogs]

Nothing new here. This has been a problem since day one with my 14 RT. Like BK and others, I cram approx 1+gallon more or less into my tank on every fill up. It kinda depends on the pumps you're using. The new high speed pumps are overly sensitive to the process and therefore are more difficult to attain those totally full results. The older pumps work the best and are easier to manipulate. Just DON'T overfill and get gas on your feet. I've tried SLICE's trick but couldn't get it to work for me. Good idea though.

 

[UtahPete]

Nothing new here. This has been a problem since day one with my 14 RT. Like BK and others, I cram approx 1+gallon more or less into my tank on every fill up. It kinda depends on the pumps you're using. The new high speed pumps are overly sensitive to the process and therefore are more difficult to attain those totally full results. The older pumps work the best and are easier to manipulate. Just DON'T overfill and get gas on your feet. I've tried SLICE's trick but couldn't get it to work for me. Good idea though.

Having to pull back the vacuum collar on the nozzles in California while trying to top off the tank can be a nightmare.

 

[Mikey]

It is a issue you have to work around for sure! My 2012 fills the same way, hopefully the Rykers fill better than this.

 

[Little Blue]

Gas Tank Issue

....I have the same issue with filling up my gas tank. Depending on how far I have to go, I will just add the extra gallon. If I will be local to the area, I don't worry about it.
Just my opinion on the gas tank. Remember to check out your fuel level before you Ryde.

Stay Healthy and Be Safe. ....:thumbup:

 

[Pooch]

It must be related to the interior shape of the gas tank, but when filling my 2021 RT, even with controlling the fuel flow to a modest level, the pump clicks off far before the tank is full. Today when putting gas in, the pump clicked itself off at 3.6 gallons added. I gently kept the pump going, holding the nozzle just barely into the tank opening. Without spilling a drop I was able to add another full gallon of gas, and probably could have added a bit more if I had been more patient. I admit that this is not an issue unique to Spyders because my former ride, a Honda Goldwing, reacted somewhat the same. Just a nuisance but on a long trip in places where gas stations are few and far between, having a truly full gas tank rather than a mostly full gas tank could be of real consequence.

I fill the tank on my ‘21 RTL the same way.
Its easy to do if the trigger pull on the gas nozzle has a gentle pull.
Then I stop filling when I can actually see the gas in the neck of the tank.
But if the trigger pull is hard I have to be careful to not fill as full or else its liable to burp gas out on the next pull.
I have come across trigger pulls that were so hard I almost had to use 2 hands to get the gas to start flowing.

 

[BajaRon]

Filling the tank on a Spyder has always been a pain in the neck. The vacuum fuel systems (Like in CA) make it even worse. I've been in Tennessee so long I'd forgotten about those. But I think BRP outdid themselves with the Ryker... It's worse.

 

[Quickdraw]

I, like others have stated, usually don't put the nozzle in all the way. It's a balancing act for sure and it could have been designed better.

 

[Mikey]

Filling the tank on a Spyder has always been a pain in the neck. The vacuum fuel systems (Like in CA) make it even worse. I've been in Tennessee so long I'd forgotten about those. But I think BRP outdid themselves with the Ryker... It's worse.

They are over achievers!!!:roflblack:

 

[SLICE]

Having to pull back the vacuum collar on the nozzles in California while trying to top off the tank can be a nightmare.

If you pull that ''foreskin'' back far enough you can see than the nozzle has a ridge. cut a semi circle in a piece of 14 gauge sheet metal the size of a credit card and keep in wallet.

How to use.

Hold nozzle between legs, pull ''foreskin'' back slide notched sheet metal holder on and release ''foreskin'' and pump gas, we did this in Massachusetts for years until they got rid of the stupid pumps. I may have one in my storage shed, next time I'm at the storage facility I'll look and send it to you.

 

[gkamer]

I'm in the same boat. My low fuel warning light pops on at about 33-35 miles to empty. Not being a daring, devil may care type of rider. I start looking for a refueling spot at that time. The pump usually clicks off a 4+ gallons, and by judicial use of the nozzle I can generally squeeze another gallon into the tank.

 

[gkamer]

Filling the tank on a Spyder has always been a pain in the neck. The vacuum fuel systems (Like in CA) make it even worse. I've been in Tennessee so long I'd forgotten about those. But I think BRP outdid themselves with the Ryker... It's worse.

:agree: 100%

When I had my Ryker I was always worried about running fuel out of the overflow hose. To prevent this, when I refueled, I would pump no more than 5 gallons of gas.

 

[2dogs]

If you pull that ''foreskin'' back far enough you can see than the nozzle has a ridge. cut a semi circle in a piece of 14 gauge sheet metal the size of a credit card and keep in wallet. ....

Having to pull back the vacuum collar on the nozzles in California while trying to top off the tank can be a nightmare.

Yep, living in Mexiforia, AKA: the left coast, we gotta live with a lot of worthless crap out there. We have most of the deep water ports out here and with the coming restrictions on the diesel trucks used to haul all those off loaded goods, you folks living in other states are going to see a huge increase in commodity prices. But I digress, yes those dam vacuum collars on the gas nozzles are a PITA. Like SLICE mentioned the small piece of metal plate with the 1" notch cut in it is the better solution going. I've tried them all and there's no other safer way to get around it. I've seen those small metal plates for sale on Ebay if you don't want to make one. Just be safe when you are overstuffing your tank and don't overfill it. One extra gallon is plenty. That will give you a 40 mile cushion to be comfortable with between gas stations.

 

[ARtraveler]

Topping off with a full tank has been an issue from day one.

I always fill to the same level each time. This is important if you keep track of "miles per tank."

I always zero one trip meter when refilling. Then...put the nozzle into the tank about 1/2 inch. I fill until it fills up and shuts off...Manually...no auto shut off. Then...I pull the nozzle out of the tank, and fill to the ring. I let it come back up to the ring a second time. That is when I am done. This always allows for at least another gallon. One time, I put in 5.8 gallons to fill the tank. This fill method allows me to drive 200 + miles on a tank, and most of the time, no fuel light is showing. I don't want to run either of the F3's to run dry.

 

[Leroy73]

I know it’s an old thread. Twice I have had 33 or 35 miles to empty on my 22 RT, I put in 6.2 gallons. It was time consuming.

 

[JayBros]

I have suffered like most Spyder owners filling the tank because of two factors: (1) the design of the tank and the fill location (out of our control), and (2) and the velocity of the fuel as it comes out of the pump and the finite control of the pump nozzle valve (again, generally our of our control). A couple of months ago, I was forced to use a 7-Eleven C-store dispensing Exxon fuel in all grades because my Trip A odometer read 254.6 miles and the analog gauge was at the very bottom of the white range. The velocity and valve control at the nozzle was perfect and I put in 6.35 gal. the most I have ever put in the tank. The C-store is equidistant from home as the local Costco, all the pumps at which absolutely stink if you own Spyder. No, I don't like the additional cost, but I do enjoy the increased range per tank and I repeatedly put more than 6gal. at each fill up, so I routinely patronize the 7-Eleven and always fill the tank before putting the steed in the barn. I have no financial interest in the private company.