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Honda to present Neowing Tilting three wheeler at Tokyo Motor Show

When I saw the article on Yahoo, just before coming here, I figured you folks would have this dissected pretty good.

It is pretty much inevitable that another major manufacturer would come out with a reverse trike. It has just taken awhile for Can Am to get more established and show there is a market for such a critter. The big boys have let Can Am do most of the work testing the market and putting out four versions of the :ani29:.

I note that a four cylinder engine with back up electric is mentioned. Sounds a bit hybrid to me. Since its prototype, no information about engine size or running statistics.

Cost is another issue. Do they price it below Can Am in order to get a foot in the market--or--do they charge what the market will bear?

Honda is a well respected company. Am guessing that if they build it, the customers will come.

At this point in time, I am thinking I am sticking with Can Am. An 1800 RT/Goldwing tourer may be big bait for some though--if Honda builds something like that.

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As I said in the other thread I will keep my RT for me and the wife,she doesn't like to lean. This or something like it I would get for myself and ride like a borrowed horse. That just looks like too much fun and yes I do like to lean. It was hard to stop after 50 years.
 
I owned a Piaggio MP3 500 for about three years. The scooter is a real hoot to ride, and tracks like its on rails. It also has a very low center of gravity so it's very stable.

So, why did I sell it a few months ago?

1- my wife doesn't like to lean, so she wouldn't ride it

2- there is not much room for your legs if you are taller

3- I couldn't find a windshield option to prevent head buffeting above about 50 mph.

4- the big one for me was Piaggio's uncomfortable seat. It contains a rider interlock switch, and the only company that would modify the seat was Russell. For what it was going to cost, I would spend 25 percent of the scooter's value, send it to CA, and hope they got it right. If not, I would have to buy another seat.

If I had been able to solve these issues at a reasonable cost I might have kept it. I scraped both sides (center stand warns you on one side, muffler shroud on the other) in the twisties on many occasions.

i believe there is a market segment for trikes that lean.
 
I have no doubt that since it's a Honda; it'll do everything about as well as it could... :thumbup:
However... :shocked:
Why buy a Trike that WILL tip over if you forget to put down a foot? :dontknow:
If you want your motorcycle to handle just like a motorcycle; why not just buy a motorcycle? :dontknow:

I have no doubt, that this thing could make a barrel-full of monkeys seem like an accountant's convention. But it just seems as if it wants to be everything to everybody...




...just sayin'... ;)
 
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I will reserve judgement on this trike until such time as the specs become available. If this prototype ever reaches production it will be geared to those riders who want to spend a few more years in the seat without worrying about dropping a 1000 lb. two wheeler in the middle of a parking lot. There is a growing aftermarket for Goldwing trike conversion kits and Honda, looking at the demographics of its riders, may have decided the timing is right to enter the trike marketplace.

A tilting trike, with stability and safety thrown in, as well as a huge product fan base.......sounds like a formula for success.

It is not a Can Am Spyder, or a Harley, or a Piaggio, etc. It will be what it will be...or not. Brand loyalty is powerful, and if this new product is eventually launched many of our Goldwing friends may slide on over to the land of the three wheelers.
 
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a good leaning trike will out run everything else in the curves
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I wonder about that. Keep in mind a major factor in two wheel riding in curves is the gyroscopic effect of the front wheel. Turn the wheel and it wants to tilt, or tilt the wheel and it wants to turn. I don't think that will be near as much a factor in a three wheel leaner, but I could be wrong. The only real advantage I can see with the leaning of a three wheeler is gravity pulling down on your body's center of gravity helping to offset the centrifugal force wanting to pull it outward. But maybe that does have a significant affect. As I see it the lean would have to be fairly dramatic for the two forces to balance. But maybe it'll work. I'm just wondering what the interrelationship is on a two wheeler between the gyroscopic effect, gravity, and centrifugal force. :dontknow: :dontknow: The centripetal force that keeps any vehicle going in a circle is the sum of the friction of the tires against the pavement plus the inward component of gravity pulling downward on the center of gravity of the bike and rider combo. It's a lot more complicated than what I want to make any effort to understand! :gaah:
 
ottawa-rider said:
If you follow the link in the OP, you'll see that it does not mention the boxer engine displacement but does say that it would be an hybrid with an electric motor in addition to the obvious gas engine.
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The hybrid angle might not mean it is like a Prius hybrid (can drive on electric motors some of the time) but more like the Hybrid Accord a few years ago. I had one of those and it was not designed to be like the Prius or Camry. The electric motor gave the engine /drivetrain extra boost when max power was called upon. This suggests the use of a DTC transmission. When you come to a stop, the engine cuts off and restarted when you came off the brake. This helped the mpg.

The electric motor could give instantaneous and noticeable torque gains anywhere in the rpm range. With no engine ops at stop, The changes could add up to some impressive performance; "0-60" and "mpg". Just have to get the body right and they will sell; a leaning/stable quick ride that gets 42 mpg.

Jerry
 
I'd ride one. That looks like Honda's venerated V4 motor. I'd love to see can-am put the Aprilia V4 into the spyder but that's wishful thinking.

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Here in Thailand these Yamaha Tri-City are very popular, they are a lot of fun to ride especially in the mountains but are very under powered with only a 125cc engine. I am hoping they will up the engine cc's to at least 250. Oh by the way a Spyder F3 cost about US$60,000 and a RT will set you back about US$75,000.
 

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Haha I think I would easily lay that thing down myself! whew. It just looks scary to me.

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Neowing

My wife bought an MP3 500 for a her first bike then proceeded to put 18000 miles on it in 3 years, including trips to the mountains in New Mexico, down to the Three Sisters in the Texas Hill Country, and up through Missouri and Arkansas. She decided to get an RTL because the seating wasn't ideal for extended trips, the Piaggio only had a 3 gallon tank (which in West Texas meant a lot of stops to go anywhere), and the fact my 12 year old son is 5'7" and 165 pounds and was having problems fitting on by K1200RS. I addressed the seating position with a set of highway brackets and pegs and the Madstad windshield for the MP3 is perfect. Can't stop the boy from growing though.

The problems I see with the Neowing:

  • Looks like one seat. No one is going to pay the price for one seat.
  • No storage
  • It is not a tourer


When we ride and see Spyders, 90% of the time it's RT's and most of that time they are 2up. That being said, if this makes production it will have two seats, bags, and an optional touring windshield. The touring market, at least where I'm at, made the Spyder successful and acceptable to the riding community and general public, and I'm sure Honda has done their research and knows all of this.

As an aside, my wife rode the Three Sisters two months after getting her license. We stopped at the Lone Star Motorcycle Museum in Vanderpool after some 120+ miles of Hill Country riding and she was terrified, tired, and wanted me to find a way back to the hotel for her that didn't involve getting on "That damned scooter!". After she calmed down, we rode back to the hotel. Since then, she has never asked to stop riding. Hellacious rain, cold, heat, bad road conditions, doesn't matter. Anytime I ask her if she wants to stop, she says "I'm fine", and then drives off while I try to catch her. Keeper.
 
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asp125 said:
I'd ride one. That looks like Honda's venerated V4 motor. I'd love to see can-am put the Aprilia V4 into the spyder but that's wishful thinking.

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Ad says it is a "Honda Boxer" - not a "V"
 
A little less techno if you prefer.
http://thekneeslider.com/trt-the-tilting-reverse-trike-harley-conversion-from-too-kool-cycles/

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