LITHIUM - ION -PHOSPHATE Batteries from Deltran

[Lew L]

Holding a charge

I believe that the Li batteriess will hold a charge longer. The one in my V-max dosen't see it's charger April to december and the Max dosen't get ridden that much.
Kaos

 

[Lagaffe]

EarthX Battery

Excuse my bad english... I do my best... :banghead:


3 years ago i bought an EarthX Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) battery and it's the better battery i ever own.

It's definitively expensive, but it's more than candy. That battery is warranty for 2 full years at 100%

They have a battery (ETX36D) what have exactly the same dimension than the original Spyder battery.

Check the specs. of that battery at http://earthxmotorsports.com


Why an EarthX lithium battery for your motorcycle? Take off up to 80% of the weight from a lead acid battery! Lasts up to 8 years! Can sit an entire off season if you have a bike that doesn’t have a draw on the battery like a dirt bike. Unfortunately, the bikes like a Harley Touring have a draw on the battery at all times so you will have to put it on a tender if you are going to let it sit for months. Super fast charging, 2 hours or less! Not to mention you’ll be the owner of the most advanced technology lithium battery on the market that is engineered and manufactured in America!

 

[Bob Denman]

Your English is okay... :clap: :thumbup:

 

[finless]

FYI... Lithium "cell" makers do not usually make "batteries".
So even if a USA company that makes batteries, they get the "cells" from China.
Almost always (and I can say this with 99.9% accuracy) cell makers do not make batteries. Battery companies (China or otherwise) buy the cells and make the batteries. And TRUST there are many come and go battery makers using Lithium technology! They come and go like the wind!

I could go into this for days about how all this works... Good battery makers take cells and analyze them to get the cells to match each other for charging rate and discharge rate. Basically trying to "match cells" for the best performance and service.
Matching cells is pretty important to a good "battery" life and service.
Taking random cells and building a battery still works but this is where the problems come from.

Anyway... Just sharing info I know...

Again I would not put a Li-on let alone for sure not a Li-po in the Spyder.

FYI, LiFePO4 is yet another Lithium chemistry. It's kind of inibetween a Li-on and a Li-po.
E.g. they have a higher discharge current rating than Li-on but not as high as Li-po.
And being in-between, hazards of using them are in-between.

So you know... Your Laptop, Phone, and major commercial products use Li-on. They do not need high current draw.
Things like RC Helicopter, Hover Boards, etc that you see far more fires on, use Li-Po.
LiFePO4 is not that popular due to the external requirements to use them.
Might be good for a MC though to be honest. I am not a LiFePO4 expert. All I can say is LiFePO4 is about 1% of Lithium battery sales across all markets / uses.

Bob

 

[Lagaffe]

FYI... Lithium "cell" makers do not usually make "batteries".
So even if a USA company that makes batteries, they get the "cells" from China.
Almost always (and I can say this with 99.9% accuracy) cell makers do not make batteries. Battery companies (China or otherwise) buy the cells and make the batteries. And TRUST there are many come and go battery makers using Lithium technology! They come and go like the wind!

I could go into this for days about how all this works... Good battery makers take cells and analyze them to get the cells to match each other for charging rate and discharge rate. Basically trying to "match cells" for the best performance and service.
Matching cells is pretty important to a good "battery" life and service.
Taking random cells and building a battery still works but this is where the problems come from.

Anyway... Just sharing info I know...

Again I would not put a Li-on let alone for sure not a Li-po in the Spyder.

FYI, LiFePO4 is yet another Lithium chemistry. It's kind of inibetween a Li-on and a Li-po.
E.g. they have a higher discharge current rating than Li-on but not as high as Li-po.
And being in-between, hazards of using them are in-between.

So you know... Your Laptop, Phone, and major commercial products use Li-on. They do not need high current draw.
Things like RC Helicopter, Hover Boards, etc that you see far more fires on, use Li-Po.
LiFePO4 is not that popular due to the external requirements to use them.
Might be good for a MC though to be honest. I am not a LiFePO4 expert. All I can say is LiFePO4 is about 1% of Lithium battery sales across all markets / uses.

Bob

That battery (EarthX) does not need any external requirements and is also certified for airplanes.

 

[GeorgiaBill]

Battery longevity in Spyder

I got a BUDS report yesterday on a different subject, and the service manager mentioned "18 occurrences of a low battery/low voltage". The manufacturing date is listed as 2013-11-01.

I might be in the market for a battery and will come back to this topic.

Thanks, Mike

-Bill

 

[Bob Denman]

Since you've got a 2014; I might guess that it's more about a loose or corroded connection, than it is the charging system or battery...

 

[GeorgiaBill]

You might be right, Bob. Wish I had checked the connection before taking it in.

Thanks
-Bill

 

[Bob Denman]

Good luck; please let us know what the culprit turns out to be! :thumbup: