• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

PLEASE ATTACH ALL PICTURES/IMAGES AS THUMBNAILS!

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If you've been trying to add pics/images/attachments without success, then the most likely issues are that you're either not finishing the upload, attach, and insert (as a thumbnail!) process; or your source image/file is simply too large! So for the former, you need to finish the job properly; the latter, either scale it down or re-size it smaller until it will upload.

When you are adding pictures or images to any post you make, regardless of the device or brand of device you may be using, please have the courtesy to all other members/viewers to use the 'Attach Files' button below the text entry field to add any links/pics/attachments. Doing this will mean that instead of inserting a potentially massive file into your text that may or may not be viewable by anyone else &/or is subject to the link remaining viable, and regardless of your device brand/type, you'll be using the Forum's 'Insert Image' software and your images will be small enough to be seen by everyone; they'll be saved to the Forum so that they aren't subject to changes in the rules at your hosting site; and they will remain available to all viewers on the Forum for as long as your post remains. If you use the 'Attach files' button, it should allow you to select the image/attachment you want to upload; you then upload and open that it in your draft post, and once you've done that, the Forum software, not your device software, will ensure it appears below the text field of your draft post (or actually in your submitted post if you go that far without finishing the job properly!) with the word 'Attachment' showing above it - but you REALLY still need to Insert that Attachment into your post as a Thumbnail; so once you've uploaded your image/attachment, click on the image and an 'Insert' button should show across the top of the displayed image; click on that; and then you'll get 2 options, ALWAYS click on the first option, 'Thumbnails', in order to complete uploading and inserting the pics/files into your post as thumbnails rather than as full-sized images, which some won't be able to see &/or possibly even open!

That way, those who wish to see the full-sized image can click on the thumbnail to expand it; but if you load full-sized images (even if you've resized them to something that looks about the same size as a thumbnail, the platform and their device software still treats them differently!) directly into the post, some potential viewers WILL NOT be able to see them at all, especially those viewing on small screen devices/phones, and many others may need to scroll a little (or a lot!) left/right &/or up/down just to see your first image, then do the same again for each subsequent image - IF they can even open the thread!!

So if you submit a post and can still see the word 'Attachment' above any pic/image that you've uploaded, then you haven't finished the job and you'll need to go back, edit your post, and finish inserting it as a thumbnail properly! Do this by entering/editing your post, then;

  1. locating your cursor in the text where you want to position the image/attachment in your post;
  2. clicking on the attachment so that it shows 'Insert' emblazoned across the top;
  3. clicking on the word 'Insert'; and
  4. then selecting 'Thumbnail', the top of the 2 options that will appear, in order to complete uploading the attachment as a thumbnail before;
  5. (re)submitting the post by pressing 'Save'!!

If you want to add another Thumbnail, leave a space, a line, or at least something like ' - ' between them so that viewers can tell that there's more than one image/attachment there instead of just one large, solid, block of images that bleed into the text and each other - many devices see the lack of a space or line as meaning those images MUST be shown as one big block and so will try (often failing) to do that even if the screen is too small/narrow! And please remember to keep the number of pics/images shown in each post to no more than SIX (6) Images per post, even when they are showing as thumbnails - any more will create loading/viewing issues for some potential viewers too! We don't charge by the post/number of posts in each thread, so if you want to show more than 6 pics, you can always add another post with more pics in it to the same thread. (y)

These two things are not a big ask, but they will help more viewers see your posts, which is surely a good thing?! 😁

Below is a Thumbnail - click on it to see the image full sized, then click anywhere on the page to return here; or click on the 'X' in the top right corner of the image/attachment screen.


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Below is a relatively small but still Full sized image - it has been scaled down to fit/show on most screens, but the image you see is still TOO BIG for some small screen devices/phones, at best, requiring a fair bit of scrolling to see, at worst, not visible at all; and even a full or re-sized image that appears to be about the same size as a thumbnail on your display may still be treated by the Forum platform or a viewers device as an image that is bigger than this and so may not be viewable by others!

Ride More Worry Less.jpg


So PLEASE, have the courtesy to consider other members/your potential viewers and Insert all images/attachments as Thumbnails so that everyone has some chance of seeing them &/or even opening the post/thread. Failure to do this may result in your images/attachments being edited, removed, &/or possibly even being lost by your device/the system/any hosting service you might be using; and continuing to fail to insert them as thumbnails may result in them &/or your post being removed without notice. Thank you.
 
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I do not get a second screen with an "insert" option it just loads the file and says it is too big. I remember the old site had a screen to "select files" and then to "upload" them but now it just opens the folder on my computer where I select the file and it loads from there. I am on a PC by the way.

Never mind, figured it out. I had to get the picture small enough for it to load, then I could select "Thumbnail".
 
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I use a windows machine and click on "open with" and choose Microsoft Office Picture Manager. It allows you to set a percentage on the size of the original. You can also use the stock MS picture viewer and click on the three dots and a drop down gives you the option to resize the picture.

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I’m on an iPad and I don’t get the insert…..it’s strictly select and attach…..what I’m missing….
 
I’m on an iPad and I don’t get the insert…..it’s strictly select and attach…..what I’m missing….
If you use the 'Attach Files' link at the bottom of your post or reply field as detailed above, then once you open and attach the appropriate file, from there on in it's really all down to the Forum Platform Software, regardless of whether you are using an iPad or an Android device. ;)

So, once you've 'attached' the file thru that link, everything from there on in should be basically the same regardless of your device brand/type/software; and you just need to follow the numbered directions in the original post above to complete the job and actually 'Insert' the image you just attached into your post wherever you want it as a 'Thumbnail', rather than just leaving it as an attachment or inserting it as a 'Full image' regardless of whatever size you think it might be. (y)
 
I had the same issue as @Dansy yesterday - on both iPad and my Chromebook / Chrome browser.

In Chrome I was finally able to "manually" resize the image (pixel height & pixel width) so that it was small enough to load, but I never saw the Insert Thumbnail option.

Maybe the forum platform is optimized for Windows...?
 
I am on windows and didn't see it either and got a rather terse message from the person who edited it.

It really makes me not want to post any more pics here which will probably make the admins happy.

The site admins need to turn off or disable whatever it is they don't want happening rather than sending these terse messages to their users.

I am attempting to comply with the requests of the admins but what is being told to us and what is being presented is different.
 
If you use the 'Attach Files' link at the bottom of your post or reply field as detailed above, then once you open and attach the appropriate file, from there on in it's really all down to the Forum Platform Software, regardless of whether you are using an iPad or an Android device. ;)

So, once you've 'attached' the file thru that link, everything from there on in should be basically the same regardless of your device brand/type/software; and you just need to follow the numbered directions in the original post above to complete the job and actually 'Insert' the image you just attached into your post wherever you want it as a 'Thumbnail', rather than just leaving it as an attachment or inserting it as a 'Full image' regardless of whatever size you think it might be. (y)
You mean attach files… then nope, doesn’t work that way… you could do a print screen… but I can’t post pictures ;) this actually s*8ck this is the only forums I can’t post pictures from an iPad… and that’s all I use!

And the messages you send are useless… if I would see thumbnail… I would use it!

This makes it very hard to get involve and share stuff...
 
You mean attach files…then nope doesn’t work that way….you could do a print screen….but I can’t post picture ;) , this actually s*8ck this is the only forums I can’t post pictures from an IPad….and that’s all I use!

And the messages you send are useless…..if I would see thumbnail…I would use it!

This makes it very hard to get involve and share stuff…..
Dansy, I've sent a DM with more detail, but you've successfully added pics to this Forum before (I sent a link in the DM to one of your posts with incompletely loaded attachments, where no-one's complained about them - yet... ;)) so it's clear that you can actually get them from your iPad onto the Forum; and from there on in, the 'Insert as thumbnails' thing has nothing to do with your iPad or whatever other device you might be using, it's all down to the Forum platform software! Sure, 'attaching' the image does link it to your post, but it's still subject to loss (by you; by any corruption in the link; by any host site you might be using; and it's ONLY available in its full size) which means you might have issues linking it cos it's too big to start with, and some viewers may not be able to see it without scrolling madly across or up/down on their small screen device/phone to see it, IF they can actually open your post to start with! However, it sounds to me that it's likely you're just not taking the final few steps to actually upload the pic to the Forum as an embedded thumbnail, and that is where I believe you (and Clover ;)) are having issues, because you're only doing half of what's needed instead of actually finishing the job, as has been spelled out in the original post in this thread, where it says this:
  1. locating your cursor in the text where you want to position the image/attachment in your post;
  2. clicking on the attachment so that it shows 'Insert' emblazoned across the top;
  3. clicking on the word 'Insert'; and
  4. then selecting 'Thumbnail', the top of the 2 options that will appear, in order to complete uploading the attachment as a thumbnail before;
  5. (re)submitting the post by pressing 'Save'!!
Most members here (many of whom are using iPads & iPhones etc) are managing to do this OK, but if you (or Clover) aren't managing and leaving the job half done, then, once it's brought to our attention and fixed, you should be getting a proforma notification of what's been done that includes a link to this Sticky (because some members requested them). I'm sorry if you (or you, Clover) don't want those notifications, or if that notification appears to be a little 'terse' to you, but we're trying to help the majority here plus there's only so much space to use, and the link takes up a lot of that... Still, if you feel that you are getting a few of these notifications, then please, read the notification, maybe check the link if there is one, and try to work out what the notification is telling you that you might be doing/missing out on doing that others aren't; and if you can't work out & remedy that; then please, drop me or any of the other Mods a DM and we'll try to help. (y)
 
It’s show 100% then ‘
  • The uploaded file is too large.
There’s nothing else showing….if I could load a photo I would show you ;) there’s nothing special about my up to date iPad Pro….12”

There’s NO option for thumbnails
 
I've sent another DM with greater detail Dansy, but please remember that the new forum platform software was selected because it worked for the vast majority of devices, both Android and Apple, iPhones and iPads included. and so far, we have had very few issues with it not working regardless of the device, altho there have been a few members who've taken a bit of a while to follow the directions.

So Dansy, are you starting out by using the 'Attach Files' button that's just below the text box you typed your reply into?? If you click on that; select and open the image file on your iPad; then if your file is not too large, a small image of your file will appear in the 'Attach Files' box below the text box (which shows that it's not yet uploaded to the Forum, it's just 'attached', so you need to keep going and follow the rest of the directions) From there on in, if you follow the directions as listed, you are no longer using your iPad software, you are using the Forum Software, and you need to follow the numbered steps in the directions listed earlier. If you can still see the word 'Attachment' above the image that should appear in your text box (that'll still be down in the 'attach files' box too, tho!) then you just haven't finished the job - start at step 2 in the list above and follow on from there.

If that's NOT what you are doing, and/or your device won't let you open & upload a pic now (cos it has done so in the past!) and that 'attachment' &/or 'image' isn't appearing for you so that you can click on it in order to see the 'Thumbnail' or 'Full Image' options, then I'm sorry, I probably won't be able to help you any further, as it appears that your device is somewhat different to all of the others that have been used successfully here, and you'll need to use the 'Contact Us' link at the bottom of this page to contact the Admin here and try to sort out what is wrong. :(
 
I don't want to be the naysayer here, but while I've read this now, I can't imagine I'll truly remember it six months from now, nor will many others. If there 's a specific way to do things, and one not to do, is there any way to force what you want rather than relying on the hope that every member saw and remembered these involved instructions?

It seems you don't want us to use the "insert" option at the top, but rather the attach option below. Can you remove the insert option?

I think that most people will simply trust that if it is possible to do something on the site in a natural way, it's fine to do. It isn't about intent, we all want to do the best thing, it's about bandwidth, memory and normal expectations.

I asked ChatGPT for assistance; this link may be useful to you as it seems to offer what you need to do step-by-step. The scripts may or may not work, but ChatGPT can work with whomever is responsible for the site to make them function as you desire:
 
There's lots of things we could do to the Forum software MRH, but every customisation, modification, or add-on that we apply might make it easier for just a few members to do some things that most others are managing to do without the changes, but by doing so, will add to the operational costs and make the normal process of maintenance and upgrading, even just for what should be simple fixes, a whole lot more complex and more expensive to run and operate!

Even just a 'little' change or add-on made/applied today means that every single fix, security patch, or basic functionality upgrade issued for the platform software by the software owners/developers in the future needs to be extensively tested by us and at our owner/operator's expense to make sure that it doesn't impact on our Forum in unexpected ways due to the changes we've added, or at the very least, we risk issues and outages similar to those that had been plaguing the old software; and over time, any changes/add-ons we apply will take our platform further and further away from the core platform product, making it even harder and more expensive to find support and to operate on a day to day basis!

So sure, we could apply an add-on to cater for the few members who can't manage with the facilities already available on the core platform, but if it's not essential for the majority, then that adds to the running costs and ultimately risks the Forum's future. Given that, the ongoing aim on this platform is to minimise such changes unless essential for the majority of members, keeping the platform as close as possible to the core product and by doing so, making it viable for our Forum owner/operator to continue to provide the Forum for the broader SpyderLovers Community.
 
There's lots of things we could do to the Forum software MRH, but every customisation, modification, or add-on that we apply might make it easier for just a few members to do some things that most others are managing to do without the changes, but by doing so, will add to the operational costs and make the normal process of maintenance and upgrading, even just for what should be simple fixes, a whole lot more complex and more expensive to run and operate!

Even just a 'little' change or add-on made/applied today means that every single fix, security patch, or basic functionality upgrade issued for the platform software by the software owners/developers needs to be extensively tested by us and at our owner/operator's expense to make sure that it doesn't impact on our Forum in unexpected ways due to the changes we've added, or at the very least, we risk issues and outages similar to those that had been plaguing the old software; and over time, any changes/add-ons we apply will take our platform further and further away from the core platform product, making it even harder and more expensive to find support and to operate on a day to day basis!

So sure, we could apply an add-on to cater for the few members who can't manage with the facilities already available on the core platform, but if it's not essential for the majority, then that adds to the running costs and ultimately risks the Forum's future. Given that, the ongoing aim on this platform is to minimise such changes unless essential, keeping the platform as close as possible to the core product and by doing so, making it viable for our Forum owner/operator to continue to provide the Forum for the broader SpyderLovers Community.
I hear you. The forum is appreciated and yours to run as you see fit.

I don't see that one post about not using forum features and using others in a specific way will solve the issue that you seem to be looking to solve, but I agree that not every challenge is worth the time to address.

My intent was to be constructive, based on what you were trying to achieve.
 
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