The dreaded Check DPS and Limp Home Mode again

[Y Rider]

When I first got my 2011 RT Limited I was getting a Check DPS warning with Limp Home Mode. The service tech at my dealership along with BRP determined it was a bad steering angle sensor and/or magnet and both were replaced. At that time I had about 300 miles on it and now after an additional 1200 error free miles it reared its ugly head again. :gaah: Two days ago after 9 miles of a 10 mile commute to work I got a Check DPS warning. I noticed no difference in steering or performance. When it was time to return home the bike started up just fine and displayed no warnings and ran normally. I verified that my foot was no where near the brake pedal. However, after about 7 miles I got the Check DPS along with Limp Home Mode. I pulled over, shut it off, waited a few minutes then restarted. The Limp Home Mode was gone but still had the Check DPS warning. This morning all was fine again and no warnings during the entire commute.

So... do I have a problem or not? If it was a real problem why does just a CPU reset correct it? Is the software just too sensitive and generate unneccessary critical faults that results in Limp Home Mode just to @#!! me off?

Sorry for the rant. I'm just fustrated about this. I was hoping to never experience this again on this bike. I have vacation scheduled for next week but it looks like I won't be able to depend on my Spyder for any long rides. Guess I'll be riding back to the dealership to see if BUDS will indicate anything.

 

[napper39]

lose battery wire or loose relays or fusses.i check mine every 500 miles and found two times loose relays they vibrate loose.my batt wire was loose one time.hope this helps.:spyder::chat:

 

[Y Rider]

Well. I rode for a few days since the last Check DPS warning and all has been okay. Today I was at my dealership looking at chrome bling and talked to the service tech about the warning messages and the one Limp Home Mode occurance. They hooked up BUDS and it said the problem was related to the steering angle sensor and needed calibration. They did a recal and took it out for a test ride. They think that when the steering angle sensor was replaced last month due to a failure that the calibration wasn't done correctly. Anyway all seems okay now. hyea:

 

[Mr. White]

YRider says: Two days ago after 9 miles of a 10 mile commute to work I got a Check DPS warning. I noticed no difference in steering or performance. When it was time to return home the bike started up just fine and displayed no warnings and ran normally. I verified that my foot was no where near the brake pedal. However, after about 7 miles I got the Check DPS along with Limp Home Mode. I pulled over, shut it off, waited a few minutes then restarted. The Limp Home Mode was gone but still had the Check DPS warning. This morning all was fine again and no warnings during the entire commute.

I had the same thing today. I have 1,400 miles on BR1. I went into a curve fairly fast and in the curve the "check DPS" comes on. I am 75 miles from home. I did not seem to have any power loss or difference in steering. I rode it home at 60mph with no problem, but the check DPS came on several times and a small Spyder logo flashed in my odometer about every mile.

About one mile from home, I stopped for fuel. When I started up, all was clear and no check DPS came on the last mile home. I called my service mgr. and he gave me an appointment to check it out next Wed. He said if it steers okay and does not lose power, ride it.

These various "happenings" that I have read about here and now has happened to me, are aggravating at best.

 

[MouthPiece]

The symptoms expressed in this thread appear to be "similar", but not exactly what I've experienced for the past month. I have a 2010 RT-S and was problem free up until about a month ago. I had the DPS recall (September 2010) and never experienced any problems.

When I first started having problems, the "recommended fix" was just shut her off, wait a few minutes and crank her up again. I did that and for a short time all was fine. However, as many of you know it raised its ugly head one day before going to spyderfest.

The dealer replaced the DPS (and some other parts which I still don't know what) and sent me packing. I rode just about 800 miles and again the same problem resurfaced. My spyder is in the shop, and I have been advised that there will be a replacement of my electrical. This was recommended by BRP to my dealer.

I'm awaiting the return of my spyder and will give an update as soon as I know something.

Chris PE# 0004 (2010 RT-S)

 

[godfather]

Limp

Went same route, limping home, taking truck on vacation. in my case it was the new boots touching the brake pedal, service guy showed me full page in service manual about the brakes and DPS code. maybe the switch that turns off the cruise control is set to tight on some. have not had any problems now that I don't touch brakes...... have run over a few dogs and cats trying not to use brakes when not close to stealer LOL:clap::shemademe_smilie:

 

[Mr. White]

Went same route, limping home, taking truck on vacation. in my case it was the new boots touching the brake pedal, service guy showed me full page in service manual about the brakes and DPS code. maybe the switch that turns off the cruise control is set to tight on some. have not had any problems now that I don't touch brakes...... have run over a few dogs and cats trying not to use brakes when not close to stealer LOL:clap::shemademe_smilie:

The riding the brake gremlin got me too @ 400 miles. As posted earlier, I was coming into a small town and rode my brake...a symbol came on the screen. I removed and replaced the key and rode another 1,000 miles with no problems until yesterday. It is not "using the brake" it is light pressure for a time which sends you to limp mode.

If I have continuing problems with my RT, I will sell it and stick with my Motor Trike. With 60,000 miles on it, I have never had a problem, never! It runs like a hose. I will be hesitant taking my Spyder very far from the house.... If it doesn't work, I don't want it! Eight trips to my dealer will not happen to me.....it will be gone before then....

I care less if other's have had no problems as is often posted...I am glad for them, but that does not help my situation or disappointment with a beautiful, expensive machine like BR1.

Ya pays your money and takes your chances.

 

[Mr. White]

Mouthpiece writes: The dealer replaced the DPS (and some other parts which I still don't know what) and sent me packing. I rode just about 800 miles and again the same problem resurfaced. My spyder is in the shop, and I have been advised that there will be a replacement of my electrical. This was recommended by BRP to my dealer.

I'm awaiting the return of my spyder and will give an update as soon as I know something.

Mr. Mouthpiece, you are a tougher man than me. I do not deal well with situations like this. I have ridden for years with the Hill Country Road Riders, a group of older, experienced riders of all makes. In the last ten or so years, I think we have had two bikes (and trikes) stop due to mechanical problems. A couple of flats not counted.

If we can not ride more than 800 miles without a stoppage or problem, it is time for me to rethink my rides. JMHO

Good luck with your wiring replacement.

:spyder2:

 

[tbowman]

BRP Problems

I also join the ranks of those with the same DPS/Limp home problem. I love the bike and it's reverse trike concept, but the computer problems leave a lot to be desired. Had DPS changed per factory recall, picked up bike and 20 miles later it coded out. (SAS/VSS). Hauled back to dealer where they found nothing but to recalibrate the DPS. Dealer rode it 40 miles and OK. I picked it up and proceeded to Cuba, MO following week. Had a great time at Spyderfest, but on the way home you can guess what happened. After 1400 miles it coded out again, but managed to clear on restart and get home. Took bike back to dealer and they called BRP who recommended changing SAS and magnet. So far have 200 clear miles. I think BRP needs to step up and properly address this issue and by all means tighten their quality control. During the last 25 years riding all models of Goldwings over 150,000 miles, I never once had a bike laid up due to maintenance issues.:gaah:

 

[MouthPiece]

But George, here's where my situation is different. I rode for almost 16,000 miles on my RT-S without a single problem. It hasn't been until JUST a month ago that I experienced anything. Consequently, I'm not ready to "throw my spyder under the bus" just because I have recently run into some glitches. Where there is a will, there is a way. I'm having too much fun on this machine to give up now.

Chris PE# 0004

 

[Mr. White]

I, too, might feel differently if I had 16K problem free miles as you, but with less than 1,500 total miles, I am not to happy. I, like tbowman, have had many miles on two Gold Wings with zero problems...never in the shop for any reason.

I like my Spyder. It rides and runs well. However, I don't trust it now. Getting stuck in the Big Bend area of west Texas ain't my idea of a fun outing. (No cell coverage, etc and tow trucks don't like to drive that far for a pickup)

I only state that I won't put up with an unreliable machine...there is an aggravation factor involved here that I can afford not to deal with. In fact, I am seriously thinking of selling my Motor Trike and Spyder, buying a 2012 Wing and triking it with a California Sidecar kit.

I hope your next 16,000 miles are trouble free. Keep us advised.

:spyder2:

 

[MouthPiece]

Sure nuff will, George, and thanks for your support.

Chris

 

[Mr. White]

Originally Posted by BIG RED 1
.... However, I don't trust it now....

I only state that I won't put up with an unreliable machine...there is an aggravation factor involved here that I can afford not to deal with. In fact, I am seriously thinking of selling my Motor Trike and Spyder, buying a 2012 Wing and triking it with a California Sidecar kit.


Originally Posted by BIG RED 1
.... However, I don't trust it now....

I only state that I won't put up with an unreliable machine...there is an aggravation factor involved here that I can afford not to deal with. In fact, I am seriously thinking of selling my Motor Trike and Spyder, buying a 2012 Wing and triking it with a California Sidecar kit.

George,

As smart of a machine as BR1 is I don't think it reads this forum so I think the threats to sell it if it ever messes up will go unheeded.

As per usual I'm a bit confused.
Why are you suddenly pronouncing BR1 unreliable?

With all due respect, you seem to transferring the problems of others on to yourself.

Roger, perhaps I did not make myself clear. If my RT-S proves unreliable, I will sell it! I will not have a machine I can not rely on to get me home. I have, as you, read of several of our friends having a myriod of problems, some leaving them by the side of the road. To me, that is unreliable, in my case problems starting with under 1,500 on the odometer.

Yes, most dealers can correct the problems, but taking your scoot to the dealer is a chore...in my case it is a 100 mile round trip, and more for others.

I took a chance in buying the RT. I had read of the different problems, but felt BRP was addressing them, and they are. The DPS problem has been going on for two years.

I am not transferring other's problems to myself. I read of the problems others are having and now my DPS is a problem. This makes me aware of what is going on with other Spyders...that is all.

The Gold Wing had a cracked frame problem (mine did not) and a reweld took care of it. My point is the Gold Wing is a more reliable machine.

As I said, if problems persist, I will sell the RT and my Motor Trike and trike a 2012 Wing. I will not be on edge wondering what will pop up next on my screen as I motor along. I plan on riding the RT and see how it goes. My hope is that I have no more problems as I really like my RT, but if I have additonal problems, it is gone!

Some have many trouble free miles on their Spyder, some don't. I will not put up with problems...why?....because I don't have to. JMHO

:spyder2:

 

[Mr. White]

Well George that's fair enough.

I guess Honda should be congratulated for manufacturing an almost completely trouble free machine.

But having said that, a trip to the Wing forum seems to indicate a slightly different story.

But I take your point.
If for whatever the reason you don't have faith in a your ride and are suspicious the next mile will bring calamity it probably is time to move to something else.

It's too bad you are so far away because I'd seriously consider making you an offer for BR1.

Roger, it is my sincere hope I have few if any problems with the RT. I do enjoy riding it along with my Motor Trike.

Oh, there are problems with the Gold Wing, for sure. However they have been on the road for 25 years or so and there are thousands more Wings out there than Spyders. I only say Wings are more dependable than Spyders...ie, take any 100 Wings and compare problems to 100 Spyders...enough said. I know Spyders are still in a growing period, but it seems to me many of these problems should not happen. Let's take the PTT switch on the CB, with is lag in the transmit mode.... and the fix is replace the whole console...Duh.

Hey, I want to love my Spyder as I do my Wing. It will have to prove to me it is a reliable ride. In fact, I have an appointment to take it in the dealer Wednesday as I will have to wait for any repair (unless major). I plan on riding it this afternoon and see if the "check DPS" screen comes on again. I am hoping it is a computer glich. If so, I will cancel my appointment.

As a side note, we have a large Alpaca ranch a few miles from me. My neighbors have several. Ten are across the street and three are behind me. They sure are cute. I have several white tail deer who stay in my woods and a racoon family that has been around for years....they come and go...I have a huge, beautiful skunk who lives out in the back fourty. She walks around as she owns the place, paying no attention to me or any of the other animals. Several months ago a neighbor dog rushed her....I have not seen him since. ha ha

Later...

:spyder2:

 

[MouthPiece]

Perhaps that wasn't a dog, but instead Pepe La Pew??? :roflblack:

Chris

 

[freebob]

Roger, it is my sincere hope I have few if any problems with the RT. I do enjoy riding it along with my Motor Trike.

Oh, there are problems with the Gold Wing, for sure. However they have been on the road for 25 years or so and there are thousands more Wings out there than Spyders. I only say Wings are more dependable than Spyders...ie, take any 100 Wings and compare problems to 100 Spyders...enough said. I know Spyders are still in a growing period, but it seems to me many of these problems should not happen. Let's take the PTT switch on the CB, with is lag in the transmit mode.... and the fix is replace the whole console...Duh.

Hey, I want to love my Spyder as I do my Wing. It will have to prove to me it is a reliable ride. In fact, I have an appointment to take it in the dealer Wednesday as I will have to wait for any repair (unless major). I plan on riding it this afternoon and see if the "check DPS" screen comes on again. I am hoping it is a computer glich. If so, I will cancel my appointment.

As a side note, we have a large Alpaca ranch a few miles from me. My neighbors have several. Ten are across the street and three are behind me. They sure are cute. I have several white tail deer who stay in my woods and a racoon family that has been around for years....they come and go...I have a huge, beautiful skunk who lives out in the back fourty. She walks around as she owns the place, paying no attention to me or any of the other animals. Several months ago a neighbor dog rushed her....I have not seen him since. ha ha

Later...

:spyder2:

As a side note, Your Point Being..:dontknow::dontknow::dontknow: bye..

Going back in the CAVE :spyder:....

Freebob...:doorag:

 

[freebob]

Originally Posted by BIG RED 1
.... However, I don't trust it now....

I only state that I won't put up with an unreliable machine...there is an aggravation factor involved here that I can afford not to deal with. In fact, I am seriously thinking of selling my Motor Trike and Spyder, buying a 2012 Wing and triking it with a California Sidecar kit.


Originally Posted by BIG RED 1
.... However, I don't trust it now....

I only state that I won't put up with an unreliable machine...there is an aggravation factor involved here that I can afford not to deal with. In fact, I am seriously thinking of selling my Motor Trike and Spyder, buying a 2012 Wing and triking it with a California Sidecar kit.


Roger, perhaps I did not make myself clear. If my RT-S proves unreliable, I will sell it! I will not have a machine I can not rely on to get me home. I have, as you, read of several of our friends having a myriod of problems, some leaving them by the side of the road. To me, that is unreliable, in my case problems starting with under 1,500 on the odometer.

Yes, most dealers can correct the problems, but taking your scoot to the dealer is a chore...in my case it is a 100 mile round trip, and more for others.

I took a chance in buying the RT. I had read of the different problems, but felt BRP was addressing them, and they are. The DPS problem has been going on for two years.

I am not transferring other's problems to myself. I read of the problems others are having and now my DPS is a problem. This makes me aware of what is going on with other Spyders...that is all.

The Gold Wing had a cracked frame problem (mine did not) and a reweld took care of it. My point is the Gold Wing is a more reliable machine.

As I said, if problems persist, I will sell the RT and my Motor Trike and trike a 2012 Wing. I will not be on edge wondering what will pop up next on my screen as I motor along. I plan on riding the RT and see how it goes. My hope is that I have no more problems as I really like my RT, but if I have additonal problems, it is gone!

Some have many trouble free miles on their Spyder, some don't. I will not put up with problems...why?....because I don't have to. JMHO

:spyder2:

George, If you still have BIG RED next week, I will drive out to Boerne Tx.
with a trailer and give $20,000 cash for BIG RED and I'm serious...Back to the Cave....see ya...


Freebob...:doorag:

 

[MouthPiece]

opcorn:

 

[chillirider]

The only complaint I have about this forum is that the minute someone starts talking about their problems or venting a little bit about problems they are having with their Spyder people jump all over them. Heaven forbid saying anything bad about a Spyder on the Spyderlovers website. Give me a break. Sorry had to defend a fellow veteran. Old Navy saying
" A bitchin Sailor is a happy Sailor"

 

[freebob]

Two legit offers to buy is jumping all over him?

Thank you Roger, there are a lot of Vets here including myself.George
did say he would unload BIG RED and I just gave him a way to get A
GW Trike if he is serious. The ball is in his court and I'm serious as a heart attack...not trying to ruffle feathers just making an offer....

Freebob..:doorag: