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Western Touring Observations

Dragonrider

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I know this isn't really an issue for those on the East Coast, or Midwest, but for those of us who like to tour in the West, long distances between towns (gas stations) is a given. There have been many comments on the forum about gas mileage, and it being a non-issue. However, it is - the 160 mile range of my RT requires using half a side bag for a gas can. Yes, it's usually insurance, but my last bike was a BMW K12, which delivered a reliable 52mpg on the road.

The Beemer was a tad lighter at 880# vs 929#, but it had lots of tupperware, and two more cylinders, and about the same HP. Further, when I compare it to the loaded V-rod (38mpg) or Valkyrie (680# and 6 carburetored cylinders - 36 mpg), both with zero aerodynamic considerations, I find the Spyder's economy vs performance to be lacking.

It was interesting to note that gas in Kalispell, MT was $0.50 per gallon cheaper than it is in Portland, but touring on a fixed income anywhere isn't as cheap as it once was, and tour planning has to account for the poor milage. Putting this in perspective, I get 27mpg from my F150 Ecotech 4x4 at a cruise controlled 60mph, compared to 32.5 from my RT. My RT has both the CC removed and an aftermarket pipe, which brought the milage up over 15%, but still a long way from the other touring competitors.

Perhaps the solution is the pending hybrid Spyder (probably not), and the all electrics are a total joke, with no utility in the real world.

I love to tour, and NEVER ride in a large city, when I can avoid it, nor ride on the superslab, when it can be avoided. There's too much that I would miss…. So what's the answer? I guess keep grumbling about the Spyder's poor milage, until I can afford to tryke a K12, which is MUCH more comfortable to me than a Honda…. but these are just rambling thoughts, for now...

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I know what you mean! With both my husband and I riding separately we could get better mileage if we drove our car. But what fun would that be? So we cross our fingers that I don't run out of gas before we can find a station and enjoy the scenery.
 
I agree Ann..it would be cheaper to take the car....but oh not as much fun....Our Valk is good for about 160 and so is the Spyder...but not what we want to do...we would rather stop about every 130 or so...but when out west...you never pass up a gas station without topping off....the towns are 80 to 160 miles apart....look at a map...decide when to fill up...take your time and enjy
 
It would be cheaper to take the car sometimes (and warmer and drier). The Spyder mileage could be improved by covering up the suspension with aerodynamic bodywork, and laying the rider and windshield down. Lots of possibilities...but then we wouldn't be riding Spyders! You pays your money and you takes your choice...
 
It should not be that difficult to get 40+ mpg out of a Spyder, considering the 6 cyl competitors do even better...
Not difficult, but not pretty, either. Nothing pretty was ever designed in a wind tunnel. It's gonna be heavier, too. You can't argue with physics, and aerodynamics is physics. A large frontal area and a "dirty" aerodynamic profile make for high drag. The only answer is to slim it down or clean it up...and that would make it a much different vehicle. JMHO
 
When we tour on our Spyders we average 14 miles per gallon... to us that is the cost for being in the wind.... breathing (mostly) fresh air and just enjoying life.

We started out this morning for an early ride and it cost $35.90 to fill both RT's and another $25.00 for lunch.

I think it was worth a lot more than $61 to have a wonderful day's outing with my wife.:firstplace:
 
14mpg?!!?? You must the the record holder!!! :firstplace:

I'm afraid I wouldn't own anything that did that poorly…. I couldn't even get to central Oregon with that milage….
 
I agree Ann..it would be cheaper to take the car....but oh not as much fun....Our Valk is good for about 160 and so is the Spyder...but not what we want to do...we would rather stop about every 130 or so...but when out west...you never pass up a gas station without topping off....the towns are 80 to 160 miles apart....look at a map...decide when to fill up...take your time and enjy

Also agree fully with Ann's quote above.

Not real happy with the :spyder2: mileage either, but have learned to live with it, since it is what it is. Topping off when available is a good idea to avoid being stranded if you are not carrying spare gas. Almost ran out on the Alaska Highway when I decided to by-pass a top off filling station. Had about 20 miles left, and I was sweating that one out pretty good. Lesson learned.
 
Yep, That's why we waste the space for a spare gallon…. just in case. We topped 155 miles twice on our trip, but didn't run out. It IS nicer to stop every 100 miles or so, but I prefer a park or along side of a river or lake, rather than a gas station.
 
I owned a canoe once…… no motor tho...

My Columbia gives me about 15mpg at 25K feet….. with 4 people on board - or about the same as a loaded Spyder.
 
Hannigan wants $17+K to trike a 2005 K12. Let's see, a bike with a book value of $7K + $17K gives us a $24 K bike worth ??
 
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