What does D.E.S.S. Do.

[JP58]

Is it and alarm system? I rock the bike and nothing happens. Could someone take it without it sounding off?

 

[jcthorne]

Its not an alarm system.

Its an electronic key system that is supposed to make the bike harder to steal without the key.

 

[Peter Aawen]

It's not an alarm system, & yep, someone could take the Spyder without it going off!! :shocked:

But DESS is an imobiliser system, so if they don't have the right key, unless they are professional, cashed up, & really want your Spyder, the average 'opportunist crim' walking down the street just ain't ever going to get that Spyder running!! :thumbup:

If you want an Alarm system that sounds if someone tries to take your Spyder, you'll need to buy an after market unit & get it installed. DESS doesn't do that sort of stuff.

 

[Deanna777]

D.E.S.S stands for : Digitally Encoded Security System.

The D.E.S.S is not an alarm system.

Deanna

 

[jcthorne]

But DESS is an immobiliser system, so if they don't have the right key, they aren't ever going to get that Spyder running!! :thumbup:

This part is completely untrue. All one needs is a copy of BUDS and the interface which are commercially available and you can bypass the DESS even if you do not have the key. Program a new key even. DESS does not disable the bike for any prepared and determined thief.

This is precisely why so many were rightfully upset when the DESS failures started popping up. The system was preventing legitimate owners from driving the bikes, leaving them stranded while it did very little to deter real theft.

 

[JP58]

Thanks guys. My old chevy lumina had the security key like that but never left me stranded. Hope it never happens on my spyder.

 

[PaladinLV]

Security System

AJ

Is it and alarm system? I rock the bike and nothing happens. Could someone take it without it sounding off?

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Thanks guys. My old chevy lumina had the security key like that but never left me stranded. Hope it never happens on my spyder.

The DESS module reads the code that is in the key that you put into the ignition. It then compares the code to a programmed list contained in the DESS. If a match is found the DESS sends a signal to the computer that the key is an authorized key and allows the Spyder to start and run. The BUDs software is required to program the list of authorized keys into the DESS module, for 2014 & later. For 2013 and earlier the programming method was built into the DESS but requires that at least one of the original OEM keys be available.

The problem DESS plagued a portion of the early 2014 bikes which is when the key coding and DESS system was changed from the previous system. Other Spyders before and after have not been plagued by the DESS problem.

What JC says is true but the likelihood of a thief having the BUDS software and the know how to do what JC says can be done is, IMO, very, very, slim. The much more plausible event would be someone picking the bike up on a truck or trailer and hauling it off to part it out. That is not likely. So, strictly speaking the DESS is not an absolute immobilizer. From a practical and realistic view, it is.

 

[ThreeWheels]

This part is completely untrue. All one needs is a copy of BUDS and the interface which are commercially available and you can bypass the DESS even if you do not have the key. Program a new key even. DESS does not disable the bike for any prepared and determined thief.

This is precisely why so many were rightfully upset when the DESS failures started popping up. The system was preventing legitimate owners from driving the bikes, leaving them stranded while it did very little to deter real theft.

HUZZAH !!!!!!!!!

 

[Tnpapa]

The DESS module reads the code that is in the key that you put into the ignition. It then compares the code to a programmed list contained in the DESS. If a match is found the DESS sends a signal to the computer that the key is an authorized key and allows the Spyder to start and run. The BUDs software is required to program the list of authorized keys into the DESS module, for 2014 & later. For 2013 and earlier the programming method was built into the DESS but requires that at least one of the original OEM keys be available.

The problem DESS plagued a portion of the early 2014 bikes which is when the key coding and DESS system was changed from the previous system. Other Spyders before and after have not been plagued by the DESS problem.

What JC says is true but the likelihood of a thief having the BUDS software and the know how to do what JC says can be done is, IMO, very, very, slim. The much more plausible event would be someone picking the bike up on a truck or trailer and hauling it off to part it out. That is not likely. So, strictly speaking the DESS is not an absolute immobilizer. From a practical and realistic view, it is.

Wrong it is effecting 2015 s also. Ask me how I know. Just another useless idea from designers learning on the job.

 

[tplayer49]

Okay... i get it.

Is it and alarm system? I rock the bike and nothing happens. Could someone take it without it sounding off?

Wow, okay. I have a 2014 STS and I was getting a Dess code with an orange screen. The bike was hard to start... then... would not start.
I checked out the small things first. Found the positive terminal on the battery to be loose. Tightened.... end of problem.

Joe