China is America's primary adversary, and someday in the not too distant future might well be our enemy in an armed conflict. Every company operating within China is tied to the Chinese Communist Party, and therefore the Chinese government to a greater or lesser extent. I know that I cannot avoid buying products made in China unless I stop buying almost everything, but I certainly have choices when it comes to motorcycles and right now I cannot imagine buying a Chinese made motorcycle. In the past it was even an easier decision since what was coming out of China was pure ****. But this month's Rider magazine does a review of a few bikes made by CFMOTO, now with a U.S. headquarters in Minneapolis, a Chinese firm, and they give it a very positive review. This might just be the first of many Chinese companies vying for a share of the U.S. motorcycle market. It makes me think of my late uncle who fought in the Pacific in WWII, including the battle for Tarawa and for the remainder of his life would not buy any product made in Japan. But that war was over, and Japan was no longer an enemy of America the way China is today. Would you buy a new Spyder if BRP was bought by the Chinese and the bikes were made in China?
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Would you buy a Chinese motorycle?
- Thread starter vito1943
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I haven't really looked at the Chinese offerings and probably wouldn't buy a Chinese bike per say, but ANY motorcycle you buy these days will have a healthy dose of Chinse sourced parts on it even Harley Davidson. A quick Google search of any brand and where it is manufactured is an eye opener.
Almost everything to do with transportation has some component manufactured from China in it. I am 70+ and have bought my last motorcycle being the present 2020RTL. It also may have some China parts, but its what I have and am not going to get worked up about it. :thumbup: Bill
JohnRuckus
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Yes. I would. I buy what I like if I can afford it.
Your view is an interesting 1 and I'm sure there are plenty who have the same sentiments.
I'm curious though. What makes China an adversary in your opinion?
Capitalistic nations outsource many industries to other countries for the sake of cheap labor and profit.
Western countries have promoted citizens to kind of look down on manual labor, manufacturing, and skilled trade related industries/jobs.
So, if you're not a high earning corporate person, entertainer of some sort, or some other white collar employee, you're kind of looked at as mediocre or worse.
China as a nation becoming better at manufacturing and increasing overall market share across industries was pretty much inevitable once countries decided to "exploit" a situation.
As such, even some of the Made In_____ is only partially made in _____ because parts or sourced from all over. While you may not buy a Chinese motorcycle, it's becoming much harder to escape purchasing anything that doesn't have Chinese influence. Just my 2 cents.
I looked at some of the motorcycles from the company you mentioned and they look nice, but they're not Spyders :spyder: So, I won't be getting one. I did see some cheap knock-offs though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFF9OPSO5a8
I won't be getting one of these either :yikes::yikes::yikes::riding:
Yes. I would. I buy what I like if I can afford it.
Your view is an interesting 1 and I'm sure there are plenty who have the same sentiments.
I'm curious though. What makes China an adversary in your opinion?
Capitalistic nations outsource many industries to other countries for the sake of cheap labor and profit.
Western countries have promoted citizens to kind of look down on manual labor, manufacturing, and skilled trade related industries/jobs.
So, if you're not a high earning corporate person, entertainer of some sort, or some other white collar employee, you're kind of looked at as mediocre or worse.
China as a nation becoming better at manufacturing and increasing overall market share across industries was pretty much inevitable once countries decided to "exploit" a situation.
As such, even some of the Made In_____ is only partially made in _____ because parts or sourced from all over. While you may not buy a Chinese motorcycle, it's becoming much harder to escape purchasing anything that doesn't have Chinese influence. Just my 2 cents.
I looked at some of the motorcycles from the company you mentioned and they look nice, but they're not Spyders :spyder: So, I won't be getting one. I did see some cheap knock-offs though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFF9OPSO5a8
I won't be getting one of these either :yikes::yikes::yikes::riding:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
For me personally, I would not buy any big ticket items knowingly. We are all stuck with the "contains Chinese parts" etc. in most everything these days. Ask me in another year...maybe things will change. :bowdown:
BertRemington
New member
How convenient my Spyder dealer https://www.funbike.com/ also carries CFMOTO https://www.funbike.com/default.asp?page=xNewInventory&make=cfmoto#page=xNewInventory&make=cfmoto No motorcycles yet but at those prices they'll be in stock when available.
FrogmanDave
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I would for sure. The Chinese are the best manufacturers in the world now. Most of my career was manufacturing engineering so I know a little about it. I don't care about the politics or military threats. The Chinese aren't stupid. There will never be an all out war between our countries.
Cobwebs
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The world is one big holding company run as a people farm. It's China's turn, their luck, by 2030 we're all supposed to ''own nothing and be happy'' (do a search) so short lived for them. With those facts in mind, who gives a rats ass where anything comes from, be happy it's still available.
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Have you not looked closely at BRP parts? Just about every part of everything is made in China these days. I guess you haven't broken anything lately or been to Ace Hardware, Lowe's, or Napa Auto Parts.
gkamer
Sadly passed away, December '23.
Getting parts for a Spyder/Ryker sometimes takes long enough. Getting parts for a Chinese motorcycle would add a whole new meaning to the expression “Taking a slow boat from China”.
Plus I can’t believe there would be that many dealerships in a position to service Chinese motorcycles. So no, personally I would never consider purchasing a Chinese motorcycle.
Plus I can’t believe there would be that many dealerships in a position to service Chinese motorcycles. So no, personally I would never consider purchasing a Chinese motorcycle.
slhanks004
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No I would not buy a Chinese-manufactured motorcycle. I have a feeling parts availability and finding authorized service would be a problem.
RLS Exhaust
Member
I would not I fuel the beast enough !
CloverHillCrawler
Active member
Ding Ding Ding .. This answer right here. My son against my advice when he was a teenager went online and bought one of these. Main drive shaft was bent within the first month from his weight.
And of course the places stated by the manufacturer to get warranty work were no longer taking any warranty work because of 1) They were overwhelmed from the amount coming in for repair 2) The manufacturer stopped paying for the warranty repairs.
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