rjinaz86323
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Has anyone had to have their parking brake motor replaced? If so what was the cost of parts and labor. Thx
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Has anyone had their parking brake motor replaced? Finally resolved?
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rjinaz86323
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Mine had an intermittent issue that turned out to be a bad armature. They replaced it, but I am trying to find out what is the normal price for this; parts & labor.
rjinaz86323
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If you have seen several of my posts recently you know I have not had a good few months with the Spyder. I initially took it in to have the shaft recall done. RideNow in Peoria got it in and completed in a day. I also had them look at an issue with my parking brake. This is where the SAGA starts.
Upon initial diagnosis, it showed there was a problem with the left handlebar switch. They replaced the switch and anointed it fixed. Well it wasn't. It continued to fail every so often, but not consistently. They found a pin on a connector that was suspect, so they fixed that, and again it appeared to solve the problem. Because of this they discounted the ~$800 bill 50%. So they put it on a trailer and delivered it to me (100+ miles) from the dealership. They did this as goodwill for all of the previous failed fixes.
But, while unloading my Spyder, their driver tore off my grille. So back on the trailer and back to the dealership. They ordered the new grill and got it installed. When they went to move the Spyder out of the shop, the parking brake malfunctioned again. After re-checking everything, they were at a loss as to the problem and had to get BRP involved. After several hours of troubleshooting with the mothership, it was determined that there was an intermittent short in the parking brake motor. So they replaced the motor. If they had charged me for the motor and all the hours worked, it would be another $1200. While they were moving it in and out of the shop, it seemed to have a weak battery, so they replaced the battery ($210 parts & labor).
All told, they replaced the left handlebar switch, a connector, the parking brake motor, the grille, and the battery. Because of all the trouble and delays in getting the issue resolved, they asked that I pay an additional $400 to close out the entire ordeal. So all told, I ended up paying for the handlebar switch. I thought this was a very fair deal, and will continue to use RideNow in Peoria as my dealer of choice. I will be in Phoenix in a few days for other things, and will pick up the Spyder then. So now maybe riding season is finally here for us.
Upon initial diagnosis, it showed there was a problem with the left handlebar switch. They replaced the switch and anointed it fixed. Well it wasn't. It continued to fail every so often, but not consistently. They found a pin on a connector that was suspect, so they fixed that, and again it appeared to solve the problem. Because of this they discounted the ~$800 bill 50%. So they put it on a trailer and delivered it to me (100+ miles) from the dealership. They did this as goodwill for all of the previous failed fixes.
But, while unloading my Spyder, their driver tore off my grille. So back on the trailer and back to the dealership. They ordered the new grill and got it installed. When they went to move the Spyder out of the shop, the parking brake malfunctioned again. After re-checking everything, they were at a loss as to the problem and had to get BRP involved. After several hours of troubleshooting with the mothership, it was determined that there was an intermittent short in the parking brake motor. So they replaced the motor. If they had charged me for the motor and all the hours worked, it would be another $1200. While they were moving it in and out of the shop, it seemed to have a weak battery, so they replaced the battery ($210 parts & labor).
All told, they replaced the left handlebar switch, a connector, the parking brake motor, the grille, and the battery. Because of all the trouble and delays in getting the issue resolved, they asked that I pay an additional $400 to close out the entire ordeal. So all told, I ended up paying for the handlebar switch. I thought this was a very fair deal, and will continue to use RideNow in Peoria as my dealer of choice. I will be in Phoenix in a few days for other things, and will pick up the Spyder then. So now maybe riding season is finally here for us.
rjinaz86323
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Just got home from picking up the Spyder. All seems well, but I didn't realize how out of riding shape I am. It was hot (90+) when I left Phoenix, but in the high 70's when I got home in Chino. It is only a little over a 90 minute ride, but half of it is freeway with a lot of stupid drivers coming up to the high country. I was really happy to pull into the garage and get off. My neck hurt (not used to the weight of the helmet), my feet got hot in my boots, my ears were sore from wearing my earplugs (I was listening to music), and I was just plain tired. But hey, now I need to do some riding to get back into shape. Wife mentioned she wanted to do Glacier again (4 days to get there). If we do, I will want to do Beartooth & Chief Joseph, and also visit Yellowstone and the Tetons on the way home. Then she asked how far out of the way would it be to do Ouray, Silverton, and Durango? I will need a vacation for my vacation if we do all that. LOL
rjinaz86323
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They replaced the left handlebar switch, the parking brake motor, a new connector, and a new battery. This was all done after the recall, which was the main thing I took it in for.
Just changed my 2018 F3 parking brake motor/actuator what a pain in the ***. The TSB was out of date on this item so the dealer acted like they hadn't heard of this. I've only had the Spyder a year and it's been in the shop more than at my house, between the two sprocket recalls, the output shaft recall, and now this, which I did myself. It's a good thing I did, cos I found all kind of stuff just stuffed in there like a Throttle body intake hose just pushed up against it, not even seated; wires and cables not zip tied back where they came from. This Dealer QC sucks. I may have to get rid of this headache!
Dtryke
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Can I ask a question? 2018 F3S. Took it to the shop for the $1800 recall, oil change, and three new tires. No other issues or problems. The dealer test drove it all fine. I get on it and release the emergency brake and the light starts flashing. Turns out the motor conveniently "locked up" at the same time I tried to drive away. The dealer says it's just a coincidence... I'm thinking they had to temporarily remove the brake cable to do either the rear tire or the recall stuff. I'm also thinking they over-torqued the brake cable causing the motor to lock up after the third time use. Is it just bad luck, or am I right that they had to mess with the cable during repairs?
I believe you have a legitimate complaint! The brake caliper has to be removed when changing the rear tire. If the caliper isn't handled with care while removal and replacement, the brake cable can be subject to damage.
Gotta agree!! The cable itself, or maybe even the motor &/or sensor switch, which can easily be damaged during that process. Especially if the tech did the wrong thing and (inadvertently/unwittingly??) applied the parking brake while the caliper was off the disc, guess what is highly likely to happen?! Yep, you guessed it - parking brake failure, usually within a few applications of the p-brake!
So I'd suggest that your problem has most likely been caused by something the tech did while working on it - but will you ever get the dealer &/or tech to admit that?!
Snowbelt Spyder
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Hey D. Well, I guess I'm going to have to be on the other side of the aisle on this, as much as I’d love to blame a ham-fisted tech at a dealership, this probably isn't the case.
To begin with, you've been having this intermittent parking brake disengage issue since 2019. (went back through your old posts) that appears to have been mis-diagnosed by someone as a battery issue. This is covered by the warranty campaign that affects your machine. Too bad you didn't get it resolved then for no charge. Why? You have the EXACT symptoms.
Big picture, there is NO need to remove the parking brake cable to replace a tire, just remove the two caliper bolts and remove the entire caliper. There is nothing to "over-torque" on the parking brake cable. Those two nuts at the rear caliper are simply cable adjusters. They play no role in any friction on the cable, and the two caliper bolts have no affect on the cable. Even if they let the caliper hang and damaged the cable, it would most likely affect the parking brake on engagement, as the motor tries to pull the damaged area back into the sheath, not on disengagement. On disengagement, the motor just turns the front cable wheel CCW until the wheel reaches the micro-switch. The motor doesn't push the cable back to the rear. The spring in the rear caliper pulls the cable back through. There's basically no load on the motor even if the cable was damaged.
So, it's not bad luck and I don't think it's a tech issue. It was a previously identified Warranty Campaign that was missed at the time. Just a bad batch of motors that was identified by BRP and could have been replaced 6 years ago. Sorry that happened. But it works now, so enjoy the ride.
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Doug, You know the way these things work better than I, we always trust your judgement on any issues.
We do all of our own tire replacement in our little shop, and take special care when handling the the calipers, cables, and brake lines. We've changed out 6 rear and 8 fronts so far, and all has gone well with no problems.
Keep on helping everyone on this forum because we all appreciate your knowledge.
Thanks
Bill
We do all of our own tire replacement in our little shop, and take special care when handling the the calipers, cables, and brake lines. We've changed out 6 rear and 8 fronts so far, and all has gone well with no problems.
Keep on helping everyone on this forum because we all appreciate your knowledge.
Thanks
Bill
Snowbelt Spyder
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Thanks Bill, appreciate it. I’m sure you know your way around a Spyder pretty well, also.
In this particular case, every 2018 and 2019 F3 and RT, potentially have a defective parking brake motor. The Warranty Campaign to replace the motor for his 2018 F3, was effective until January 31, 2023. He first posted about the problem in 2019 (factory warranty) and again in 2021. Two missed opportunities to get a warranty repair. Yeah, techs make mistakes and sometimes don’t own up. But in this case, it’s more likely that the motor finally crapped out because it was a defective unit to begin with, and its time was up. Owners need to go to a dealer first, when still under the original factory warranty.
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Dtryke
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Hey buddy, thanks for the feedback. the actual culprit of the emergency braking system was the battery connection. I resolved the issue by using locktite on the screws and absolutely never had the issue again!! and it's worked perfectly for the past 5 years. But the dealer is giving me a break on the repair.. normally about $670 and dropping it to $470. I did look up a you tube video on removal of the back tire and they do need to un-bolt the cable but do not really need to touch the assembly, merely bolt it back on.. Thanks again!!! Haven't been on here for ever and couldn't remember the name of the site. but as always, it's helpful!!
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