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2024 RT L back at the dealer for the 9th time in 3 months!! How long until you give up?

I would suspect that most of the laundry list of problems you listed could be traced to a single source. Electrical issues with a CANBUS system can be caused by a single issue. I've seen it in the car world. A single issue can cause a cascade effect showing fault codes and other issues that don't truly exist. For example, if your alternator is faulty and sending erratic voltage levels out, it could cause other issues that show as faults when none truly exist.

I would suggest that possibly the dealer doesn't have a tech on board who is experienced in CANBUS related electrical gremlins.

So, this is my way of saying the problems may not be as bad as they first appear to be.
I agree. This could very well be a single source creating all the drama.

You would think the dealership would look to voltage issues as a first possibility. Bad batteries are well known for creating this kind of scenario. Low voltage can give the ECU a stroke. Which means you can't trust anything it does or reports as the reason things are not right.

If the voltage is good across the board (very suspect with the multiple jump start events). Then the ECU itself needs to be swapped out to see if that corrects the situation. All basic 'Fix It 101' stuff.

Still, it's easy to armchair quarterback. I hope they find the problem and get it corrected before your riding season is over.
 
Put your spyder on a trailer with a large cardboard cutout of a lemon strapped to it and park it across the street from the dealership. A gentleman in my town had a similar issue and received immediate attention by using that tactic. After a couple of days, he was given a new car in exchange for the lemon he had displayed on his trailer. Good luck, and I feel your pain.
 
I can definitely feel your pain and dissappointment. I just had issues with the saddle bag latches on my 2021 and I was ready to throw in the towel. I can only imagine the frustration that you must feel. Good luck on what ever you decide and hopefully you will not loose too bad on this deal.
 
Put your spyder on a trailer with a large cardboard cutout of a lemon strapped to it and park it across the street from the dealership. A gentleman in my town had a similar issue and received immediate attention by using that tactic. After a couple of days, he was given a new car in exchange for the lemon he had displayed on his trailer. Good luck, and I feel your pain.
He'll get some attention alright, but it may not help his repour with the dealership down the road! The sad part with dealing with BRP is nothing moves fast, and by what I since from talking to a local dealer here in Maine, everything happens with email, and it may take days to get a reply, so this back-and-forth crap slows things down and the parts train, well let's not talk about that!! All I can say is if you have a GOOD shop, you're using you want to keep them close and happy, not piss them off! It's finding a good one!!!!
 
GRADERMAN, You have been through a lot of CRAP in a short time with this Spyder, Dumping it is one choice but keeping it another.
If you decide to keep it make sure the dealer gives you 3 years of BRP Best warranty on top of the original 2 years for the total of 5 years.
Right now is the time for BRP and the Dealer to step up
T.P.
 
He'll get some attention alright, but it may not help his repour with the dealership down the road! The sad part with dealing with BRP is nothing moves fast, and by what I since from talking to a local dealer here in Maine, everything happens with email, and it may take days to get a reply, so this back-and-forth crap slows things down and the parts train, well let's not talk about that!! All I can say is if you have a GOOD shop, you're using you want to keep them close and happy, not piss them off! It's finding a good one!!!!
At this point, who cares if you pi$$ off the dealer? "9 times", and Graderman is still stuck with a non operable spyder after spending what we know is a lot of money, and for what, something he can't use or depend on. What a horrible sinking feeling over what is supposed to be an enjoyable experience after retirement. As far as I know emails move at light speed and Graderman is not the first spyder owner to have received this kind of treatment from BRP or one of their dealers.
 
I have had three new spyders since 2020 and from two different dealers. No issues on any. Adding “accessories” can sometimes cause some unintended consequences. The bike can get a little quirky.
 
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