998cc VS 1330cc engines

[Zip]

I ryde a 998 RT manual and I am happy for the most part. It runs real good and when I have to get on it it goes. Getting on the highway is easy and I am up to speed in a flash even ryding 2 up. I just wish the fuel mileage was a bit better, I get 35MPG which seems a bit low to me.

 

[Jeriatric]

Mileage

I ryde a 998 RT manual and I am happy for the most part. It runs real good and when I have to get on it it goes. Getting on the highway is easy and I am up to speed in a flash even ryding 2 up. I just wish the fuel mileage was a bit better, I get 35MPG which seems a bit low to me.

Seems to be Great Mileage to me - after all, the RT has the aerodynamics of a flying brick:roflblack:

 

[JerryB]

Hi Drew,

Re: Silly old people, and their archaic mindset...

I could not agree more. Heck, if I didn't I'd have to turn my Mech. Engr. degree to the wall.

A few years ago, Toyoto & Subaru teamed up to build a new car; now known as the 2017 Toyota 86 and the 2017 Subaru BRZ.

They did it because Toyota wanted the Subaru 4-cyl flat/opposed engine & Subaru wanted the far superior Toyota fuel injection system.

Car mfrs ( and motorcycle mfrs ) are simply getting far more power out of engines of smaller displacement today then ever before in history.

Jerry Baumchen

http://www.toyota.com/86/2017/photo-gallery/exterior

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/brz/index.html

 

[ARtraveler]

Silly old people, and their archaic mindset...
If that were true Harleys and Goldwings would be the fastest bikes on the street with their 1700-1800 motors vs those silly small 1300-1400 sport bike motors.

Great marketing Kool aid though! Hey, it sold you on "trading up". Oil changes are less frequent too...Also, no valve checks...!!! Hahahaha ������. Awesome!

People still getting butt hurt that a lot of people haven't drank the 1330 Kool aid, and are perfectly happy with their 998

I know of 3 local riders now that went from RS to F3 "trading up" and have gone back.
BRP still has a lot of work to do.....[emoji106]

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For those with 998's and who drive a lot of miles--those maintenance and gasoline costs do add up, especially if you drink the valve check kool aid. No complaints with either version here. :thumbup:

 

[jtpollock]

Hi Drew,

Re: Silly old people, and their archaic mindset...

I could not agree more. Heck, if I didn't I'd have to turn my Mech. Engr. degree to the wall.

A few years ago, Toyoto & Subaru teamed up to build a new car; now known as the 2017 Toyota 86 and the 2017 Subaru BRZ.

They did because Toyota wanted the Subaru 4-cyl flat/opposed engine & Subaru wanted the far superior Toyota fuel injection system.

Car mfrs ( and motorcycle mfrs ) are simply getting far more power out of engines of smaller displacement today then ever before in history.

Jerry Baumchen

http://www.toyota.com/86/2017/photo-gallery/exterior

http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/brz/index.html

BRZ one hot cookie too bad they went away from the all wheel drive...nojokejtpollock

 

[ARtraveler]

BRZ one hot cookie too bad they went away from the all wheel drive...nojokejtpollock

Being a Subaru fan, that was on my list of would like to own--until I found out it was not all wheel drive. :thumbup:

 

[Devious56]

Still being rather new to the Spyder world, let me ask, what is the red line of the 990 engine, I know the 1330 has an 8200 rev limiter. Just trying to do a little comparing since I've never ridden a two cyclinder Spyder.

David

 

[Firefly]

Anyone who cares to do a 998 vs 1330 test... I'll be at Spyderfest.
Let's run em'.


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[Bob Denman]

Still being rather new to the Spyder world, let me ask, what is the red line of the 990 engine, I know the 1330 has an 8200 rev limiter. Just trying to do a little comparing since I've never ridden a two cyclinder Spyder.

David

I believe that the 990s would spin to 9,500 rpm.
They held the 991s to just a bit lower than that. :thumbup:

 

[Devious56]

I believe that the 990s would spin to 9,500 rpm.
They held the 991s to just a bit lower than that. :thumbup:

Thanks Bob, doesn't seem to be that much difference, 1500 rpm between the two. I wonder how many rt riders really wind them up, I know the folks I ride with keep them pretty much under 5,000 rpm. Pretty sedate performance. Yep, I'm prejudiced, like my 1330 motor. I just wind mine up as the situation requires. I think it runs pretty well, I know it will bang the rev limiter (8200 rpm) in first, second, and third gear, never had a reason to try 4th. And with 45 mpg, I think I'll keep it for a while. Hope to run into you one of these days (on foot, not riding). Catch you later.

David

 

[Bob Denman]

Having had both:
The 1330 will pull the 998's stickers off; when they start the run...
My 998 would run right up to 97 mph (indicated...), and then go into slow motion:
" ... 98 ... 99 ... 100 ... 101... "
The 1330 just sprints up to 97, and keeps pulling:
"98.. 99.. 100.. 101.. "
I never took my 998 past 101 mph, because I simply had no room. :banghead:
The 1330 saw 109 mph, and was STILL pulling nicely, when we rode out to Missouri last year. nojoke

 

[jroberts650]

Having had both:
The 1330 will pull the 998's stickers off; when they start the run...
My 998 would run right up to 97 mph (indicated...), and then go into slow motion:
" ... 98 ... 99 ... 100 ... 101... "
The 1330 just sprints up to 97, and keeps pulling:
"98.. 99.. 100.. 101.. "
I never took my 998 past 101 mph, because I simply had no room. :banghead:
The 1330 saw 109 mph, and was STILL pulling nicely, when we rode out to Missouri last year. nojoke

I think that's mainly because of the computer limiting speed for safety reasons..... So I've been told. Plus I'm sure aerodynamics plays a part in their top end speed. Kind of like pushing a barn darn down the highway.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: No... there is no, nor has there EVER been; any speed limiters on these bikes...
(Well... you could count the rev-limiter if you really have to! )

You're right: it's plain old aerodynamics, that holds these bikes back!

 

[blacklightning]

I have had both my spyders to about 105 mph (2014 RT & 2012 RSS) both bikes attained those speeds very easily, but the RSS definitely did it quicker and felt like it had plenty left. I had no desire to push either one any faster. But if i had to guess by the progression and rate that it picked up, the RSS was quicker and would have a higher top speed.

 

[Bob Denman]

No doubt... :thumbup:
But the RS presents a much smaller "barn door" to the wind.

 

[crazycanuck]

128mph

 

[Bob Denman]

On the Ducati?? :roflblack:

 

[AeroPilot]

Both are fun and excel in their own way

When my wife got her new 15 RT-S she handed down her old 11 base RT SM5 and I got to switch from my Road King to the 3 wheel life (it was time). I found out that all she needed to pull away with her on the new 1330 and me riding the 998 was to slow down or start out on a good uphill grade and then roll on the throttle. Heading west out of Denver on 70 was a good test or east out of Montrose on 50 the same.

There are many times the 1330 would leave me and be pulling away even though my weight on the RT pretty well matched her weight on the 15 RT-S. The torque was the difference and other than that the clear difference was in maintenance and stopping for fuel. Fun Fun

 

[DrewNJ]

No doubt... [emoji106]
But the RS presents a much smaller "barn door" to the wind.

Ain't that the truth! Being used to the RS I thought I was dragging an anchor on the RT.
Just a different ride, that's all.[emoji106]

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[Bob Denman]

Ain't that the truth! Being used to the RS I thought I was dragging an anchor on the RT.
Just a different ride, that's all.[emoji106]

Amen... :clap:
And they're ALL pretty damn good! :yes::yes::yes: