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Anyone know what is in the Air Damper "Kit"?

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Have done a search and didn't see what I was looking for. Wife's RT has a slow leak in the air damper system somewhere. Looked up parts and came across the Air Damper Kit (p/n 219800175). Curious about what is included in the "kit"?

Called my closest dealer and they weren't sure either. So if anyone has used this part number, I'm curious about what all is included?
 
It's been more than just a few minutes since I last got one of those kits, but if they're the same as the three I've purchased to fix other Spyders were, then you'll get EVERYTHING you need to install that 'Air ride-levelling system' as a 'plug & play' kit on a Spyder that didn't come with it standard - so effectively, you could rip out EVERY part of your original factory installation and replace it with the new items from the kit, but I'd only do that if you're really into pain and like doing things repeatedly only to still end up with the same problem!! 😖

The ACS on our Spyders is one of those 'nice idea, REALLY POOR execution' things!! They fail, they leak, the compressor is poor quality, the replacement parts are expensive, problems are hard to diagnose &/or fix, the standard shock/coil isn't really up to the task of keeping the metal/plastic bits off the top of the rear tire anyway, they don't really add any true advantage &/or benefit to your ride, and you almost invariably WILL have some sort of problem with it at some stage!! 🤬

So I'd suggest that you cut your losses now, and if your air bag isn't leaking (spray on soapy water & look for bubbles to check!) then either convert yours to a 'manual fill only' system by re-routing the air line direct from the schraeder valve under the seat to the air bag and setting the pressure to whatever you desire (a small bicycle pump will work for ad-hoc changes if you're that way inclined) or toss the ACS entirely and fit a better shock/coil combo.

I don't know of anyone who has ever regretted going down either of those paths above, but I know of a fair few who really regret trying to persist with the invariably problematic factory ACS set-up! :cautious:
 
@Peter Aawen, mine is just an RT, so it is already a 'manual only' system.

When I look up parts, the part number mentioned is for the air damper but the basic description states 'kit', so one would assume it contains more that just the damper.
 
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Maybe you guys should just Google things first... the bag and a fitting is a "kit". Don't assume anything. You know what they say about that...


Now, for the OP. If your wife's RT is the standard edition, then yes, it is manual fill only. Some things to check first:
- The inside valve core of the Schrader valve, under the seat, can come loose due to bike vibration. Simply use your valve stem tool to tighten it up.
- There is an incredibly small amount of air actually inside that system. Changes in ambient temperature affect air pressure.
- Obsessively checking the air pressure also causes air pressure to go down, because you can lose about 2# every time you check it.
- The tubing connections are simply push to connect. Check for leaks as Peter described. If you find one, disconnect, cut off the gnarled up end and then reconnect. Makes sure it is fully inserted. Push hard.
- And lastly, the air bag can get a leak towards the bottom because little stones and gravel gradually rub through the rubber of the bag. That's when you need to replace the bag.
- How slow is "slow".

Good hunting.
 
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I recently had the same problem on my '20 RT Base. As recommended by Peter above, I replaced the OEM shock with an after-market shock (Elka) and all is good again. Buy once, cry once!
 
Like Snowbelt said, and I am going to come right out and ask. Where is your leak? Did you put the soap to it to find the problem?
 
Like Snowbelt said, and I am going to come right out and ask. Where is your leak? Did you put the soap to it to find the problem?
Not exactly sure yet. I know there was a slight leak out of Schrader valve so replaced the core and stopped that. Still need to soap everything to see where the "major" (ie leaks down overnight) leak is.

Just figured I would plan for the worst of having to get a new damper and go from there once I narrow it down. Could be as simple as a fitting or the hose but depending on how much of a pain it might be to get to everything probably just replace it all. Hence the question of what is in the "kit" so I don't end up with additional parts.
 
Not exactly sure yet. I know there was a slight leak out of Schrader valve so replaced the core and stopped that. Still need to soap everything to see where the "major" (ie leaks down overnight) leak is.

Just figured I would plan for the worst of having to get a new damper and go from there once I narrow it down. Could be as simple as a fitting or the hose but depending on how much of a pain it might be to get to everything probably just replace it all. Hence the question of what is in the "kit" so I don't end up with additional parts.
Absolutely, until you put the soap and water to it, I would not pull the trigger yet!! It could be anything line, fitting, or bag that would be the worst case out of all of the things, but until the test you don't know! If it's line or fittings you can get that stuff at any auto supply that has fittings for big trucks with air brakes, it's the same stuff, don't need to go to BRP for that stuff, air bag well that's another story!
 
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