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Cat Delete Pipe Recommendations?
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ButterSmooth
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I also have an RLS with the muffler and no baffle. Seems to be fine to me -- tiny bit more sound when riding and -1 mpg. No more burning smells and I hope it is cooler in the Summer, my main reason for changing. If you order one, do it by phone. I enjoyed talking to Rick.
troop
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I have a Baldwin Ironworks cat delete pipe. Awesome quality, and Paul is a great guy. Can't say I ever had exhaust/fuel smell..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Can-Am-Spy...924889?hash=item46ac082219:g:IbMAAOSwCXxcLTOH
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Can-Am-Spy...924889?hash=item46ac082219:g:IbMAAOSwCXxcLTOH
troop
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Ricky calls it a resonator. Basically a chamber to build up exhaust for added back pressure.
Joel The Biker
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RLS!!!! There is no comparison!!!! Has built in resonator chamber that keeps noise to a minimum and produces a nice deep tone! I love mine!!!
PMK
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Years ago we bought a Lamonster bypass pipe. No baffle, no resonator. Sounds good for us and has a pretty sweet bark.
The exhaust note is not so much deep, nor is it overly raspy, the cat delete is connected to the oem multi chambered muffler.
There was no RLS or other brands offered then, but no plans to change. This bypass pipe is stainless construction, aligned in a jig and tig welded like a performance race exhaust.
The exhaust note is not so much deep, nor is it overly raspy, the cat delete is connected to the oem multi chambered muffler.
There was no RLS or other brands offered then, but no plans to change. This bypass pipe is stainless construction, aligned in a jig and tig welded like a performance race exhaust.
spyderbear
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RLS on my 2019 f3 LTD great sound and a lot less heat ! did a lot of looking and RLS was the one .
A cat delete eliminates a considerable amount of heat. That's a given. As for increased power and MPG, no one has proven that. That I know of anyway. Sound, yea, lots of folks have noticed a little louder and lower tone. Reports of a baffle in or out of the cat delete will change the low RPM torque and or the high RPM torque. Other reports say that the ECM continually adjusts itself to control any modification to remain at stock performance. I tend to go along with that theory. So, the only thing that really seems to change with a cat delete, is the loss of some heat and a change of exhaust sound.
Piratezz
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Agree with 2dogs on this, only more sound, no performance increase. A tune does increase the power significantly, also changes the sound; mine is quite quiet, 'til I hit 4000 rpms, then it squeals, a nice raspy sound tho. I made my own cat delete, have a baffle actually before the muffler (an Akropovic)
ButterSmooth
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I've lost ~1.5mpg with my RLS and no baffle. No detectable change in power or torque. If the springs weren't such a pain, I'd put the baffle into the RLS. The riding sound is fine, but if you rev it up in the driveway, it rasps like one of the tinny little rice-burner cars.
PMK
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Interesting, what muffler? Ours has the stock 2014 muffler. Maybe the early muffler is chambered differently, since ours is not raspy in my opinion. Certainly has a louder bark and more of a snarl than rasp. Luckily it does not sound like a Harley V Twin.
ButterSmooth
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PMK
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Is your 2020 muffler different than the earlier 1330 RT mufflers. I know ours has a bunch of chambers inside the muffler, but not actual packing material. Maybe my modified intake helps too with the exhaust note.
PMK
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Was not sure what Whiskey Tenor was or meant. Looked it up. Does not seem to be a desirable thing based on definition.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/whiskey+tenor
PMK
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Sort of. Yes the computer will, constantly learn and adjust as needed. This is in regards to watching upstream FA ratios. Not sure, but believe the Spyder, like other vehicles tends to learn trends from the operator.
Yes, there is a huge heat reduction. As for MPG, I have documented a very slight increase in mpg. Regarding power, unfortunately, so many people see power as a number, or an increase. That is not quite the case. Usable power is often far more valued than an increase in peak power. With our bypass installed, and the computer has learned over say 100 miles of riding with varied throttle settings, our Spyder has the ability to rev more freely into the mid range, while pulling stronger than with the oem exhaust. This is not revving each gear to max rpm and bouncing the rev limiter, simply accelerating and shifting gears at around 4200 to 4500 revs. Oem kind of started signing off and liked to be short shifted at 3500 or fewer revs.
My opinion though, everybody is different, do what you like. It is ironic though. Other owners with essentially the same Spyder model and same exhaust, insist I cut open our muffler and reworked it. The exhaust note on ours has strong bark and the engine pulls hard. Theirs, has a much softer exhaust note, but as a rider, they tend to ride at lower revs and short shift.
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