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ECU remap for more torque

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Colin - as it's a brp remap - any chance you can ask your dealer for any clues, like the number of the Technical Service Bulletin ?? What is the name of your dealer?

If I can give a reference number to my dealer, all is generally good; without it, not so good.

Failing a TSB, can you find anything specific I can pass on to my guy?

Now that I know there are quite a few spyders with this remap, I shall give a WA dealer a call... Wish me luck. If I find anything, I shall certainly pass on email info.

yes - the Perth one is the same one I mentioned as having the remap.
 
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I'm going to take a wild guess and say that probably 80-90% of us can't ride their current bike to it's fullest potential as it now sits.
 
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that probably 80-90% of us can't ride their current bike to it's fullest potential as it now sits.

Yeah but you're missing the point. It's not really about the extra horsepower (although that's a nice bonus for those occassional full bore overtakes) but more about making it just nicer to drive.

Every vehicle I've had remapped just felt smoother afterwards.
 
Colin - as it's a brp remap - any chance you can ask your dealer for any clues, like the number of the Technical Service Bulletin ?? What is the name of your dealer?

If I can give a reference number to my dealer, all is generally good; without it, not so good.

Failing a TSB, can you find anything specific I can pass on to my guy?

Now that I know there are quite a few spyders with this remap, I shall give a WA dealer a call... Wish me luck. If I find anything, I shall certainly pass on email info.

yes - the Perth one is the same one I mentioned as having the remap.

Thanks, the TSB would indeed be very handy as I can try that on a UK dealer then. The UK and Aus/NZ united being pretty much the same will certianly help.
 
Not sure I didn't see this initially.
Myself I am skeptical.
To remap effectively one would need to have a map from a Dyno Tuned Spyder. Dyno tuning is something a Seadoo Dealer tech does no have the ability to do.

In fact the way the Spyder is setup, doing a dyno is not an easy affair let alone finding a "reverse" trike setup. Only know of a very small handful of folks here that can do it.

However, IF he got hold of a map, that map is going to change depended on the exhaust and pipes being used.

AJ

A fellow in Western Australia is selling an F3S which has had an ECU remap done by the authorised Seadoo dealer.

He tells me that hp went from 115 to 127
and Nm from 130 to 145

As he says, when in 3rd gear at 60kph pre-remap = need to downchange gear,
after remap "bike just goes"

His summary is more torque, more enjoyable below 3000rpm, better throttle response, less gear changing so improved mpg. Easily reversible.

Nb we do not have the long belt/different sprocket here in oz.n

My query is - has anyone else heard of this ? ?
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't brp done various remaps over the years - adjusting for running lean etc. I know there was one on the st, and vaguely recall one on the Rs too.

From what I know of what has been done, it's a buds thing, not a dyno or power-thing-add-on.

Maybe brp have created a map from a dyno'd spyder? (Clearly, I am a bit lost re this possibility)

The mystery continues ...
 
Agree, this would be a straight replacement for the existing map based on stock components as it's coming rom BRP themselves - not a tuner. So would not require any rolling road time to set it up.

Obviously anyone who has changed exhaust, removed secondary CAT etc. will have a different configuration to stock, but I don't see why the new map wouldn't adapt to these as the existing one does? It would just adjust fuelling etc. based on the new parameters.

If this was coming from a tuner the rolling road / individual setup would only be required if bike has been modified from stock. Lots of companies offer plug and play updates to unmodified vehicles as they are based on a standard starting point. Usually done at the roadside with a laptop.
 
True facts about F3 ECU remaps

This is the true facts about the F3 ECU remap, now as per the comments made on here that this is a BRP remap and any dealer will be able to help with getting it is utter crap. :banghead::banghead:

This remap has been done and only done by one person here in NZ and Australia and I have talked to him today at great lengths about what has been said and what he is doing to help F3 owners that want a more lively F3.

He has given me permission to pass on his contact information so if any one is interested please feel free to send me a P/M.
 
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Thank you Bruce.
Now people know where to go for this remap. Your efforts much appreciated.

At least I now know that it is NOT a brp authorised remap.

All good, thanks everyone.
 
This is the true facts about the F3 ECU remap, now as per the comments made on here that this is a BRP remap and any dealer will be able to help with getting it is utter crap. :banghead::banghead:

This remap has been done and only done by one person here in NZ and Australia and I have talked to him today at great lengths about what has been said and what he is doing to help F3 owners that want a more lively F3.

He has given me permission to pass on his contact information so if any one is interested please feel free to send me a P/M.

Maybe get your facts right before inferring that I am telling lies. The remap that was done on my F3 and many other F3s was done to improve performance in 2nd gear, as I said in my original post. This was supplied to my dealer and a few others by BRP Australia.
It is not a full remap like the guy that offers his remapping service on Trade Me does.
 
Maybe get your facts right before inferring that I am telling lies. The remap that was done on my F3 and many other F3s was done to improve performance in 2nd gear, as I said in my original post. This was supplied to my dealer and a few others by BRP Australia.
It is not a full remap like the guy that offers his remapping service on Trade Me does.


Colin I have talked to the chap that did your remap and all the others in NZ so I do know what I am talking about.
 
Colin I have talked to the chap that did your remap and all the others in NZ so I do know what I am talking about.
Not wanting to get into a debate, but if you are referring to Jason, he has never had anything to do with my Spyder, and I have just spoken to my dealer to confirm this.
 
Not wanting to get into a debate, but if you are referring to Jason, he has never had anything to do with my Spyder, and I have just spoken to my dealer to confirm this.

Well why have you not replied to feed #42

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Colin - as it's a brp remap - any chance you can ask your dealer for any clues, like the number of the Technical Service Bulletin ?? What is the name of your dealer?

If I can give a reference number to my dealer, all is generally good; without it, not so good.

Failing a TSB, can you find anything specific I can pass on to my guy?

Now that I know there are quite a few spyders with this remap, I shall give a WA dealer a call... Wish me luck. If I find anything, I shall certainly pass on email info.

yes - the Perth one is the same one I mentioned as having the remap.​



and yes it is Jason that told me about doing yours and yes he did work for BRP in Australia.
 
Remap Service

A fellow in Western Australia is selling an F3S which has had an ECU remap done by the authorised Seadoo dealer.

He tells me that hp went from 115 to 127
and Nm from 130 to 145

As he says, when in 3rd gear at 60kph pre-remap = need to downchange gear,
after remap "bike just goes"

His summary is more torque, more enjoyable below 3000rpm, better throttle response, less gear changing so improved mpg. Easily reversible.

Nb we do not have the long belt/different sprocket here in oz.n

My query is - has anyone else heard of this ? ?

Hi Everyone
I had a call from one of my customers this morning regarding this thread and he wanted me to post a reply,

My name is Jason and im the guy mentioned in this thread, i was the workshop Manager at australia's largest and no1 Can Am dealership
and also have my own business remapping all types of seadoo and can am including spyders.
I have been remapping spyders since 2007/8 when they first came out,
Since then we have remapped a hell of alot of spyders in New Zealand, Australia, Europe, Asia and the Middle east.

On our remaps i do the following
Lift rev limiter
Change the way the traction control comes in
Optimize fuel and afr maps
Optimize timing maps
Optimize gear selection (auto trans)
Remove speed limit restrictors
and quite a bit more (trade secrets), so what you get is a bike with much more torque , faster and cleaner acceleration , better gear changing and better fuel economy its night and day difference.
These bikes from factory run lean to pass emission laws so the small mods that people tend to do like air filter, cat removal, exhaust mods etc etc will actually run your bike dangerously lean and you run the risk of melting a piston.
If you have played with your bike i suggest you remove the spark plugs and have a good look if they are white they are very lean if they are white with little specs on the electrode i would suggest your engine has been detonating either been to lean or wrong fuel.
The ecu's in these bikes are so smart and far superior to any ecu that you will get in a car in actual fact they have a couple of hundred maps just for the fueling side alone then you have timing and compensation maps etc but can only do so much to compensate changes from factory "stock".

I can remap any spyders from late 2007 to latest 2017, manual or auto.

As for the BRP" Remap" there isn't one brp have had small software changes and releases over the last few years one of them actually helped slightly with gear changes or laziness by adding a little bit of timing but this is only available when the dealer plugs buds in and the ecu needs a software upgrade.
I am a BRP authorised tech and have even done mapping for BRP.

A lot of the earlier 1330 did need the software upgrade but the later spyders have this from factory this is why some guys who have been to the dealership noticed a difference and some dont.
And to be honest even the latest bikes still suffer from the the lazyness in the gears but this we can change in the remaps.

The F3 that was mentioned in the "for sale ad" i remapped a few months ago i have actually messaged this customer to come here and share his findings with this group.

If you have any questions feel free to ask or message me
I can also be contacted on 0415041477

Thanks
Jason
 
Hey Jason, do you have a website or email contact to discuss details of all this sort of stuff for our Spyders, or would you rather do it here??

Oh, & do you do anything for the V-Twins too??
 
Hey Jason, do you have a website or email contact to discuss details of all this sort of stuff for our Spyders, or would you rather do it here??

Oh, & do you do anything for the V-Twins too??

Hi Peter
I can be contacted on 0415041477 or mail [email protected] for any questions, my new web site is been done as we speak!

Thanks
Jase
 
You're
asking why someone would want more torque or power?


Just hand in your man card at the door.:sour:

Always be wary of those that threaten to take your man card. My sons took mine years ago when I bought a Hybrid car and an electric mower. When I asked how to get it back I was told that I cannot ask,it was all very vague. :banghead:

After a few year ear I got an "official" man card, the rules are layer out quite clearly.
1 . You must burp your naame in front of other men, or,
2. You must build something with a power tool.

FYI, the hybrid car was gone in a year, what a bad idea, and the mower lasted a month.

Needless to say my wallet holds an official man card and my man cave / awesome garage, displays the certificate of authenticity. One other footnote, because of other reasons I had my testosterone checked. Normal levels are between 200 and 1,000, mine is over 850, not bad for a geezer.

Joe
 
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