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GPS Trip Planing

remark2013 said:
What program are you all using to plan your trips with the Garmin 66? To me Base camp sucks!
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Using MapSource the processor to BaseCamp. Both are free from Garmin. Both software had step learning curves.

Here's a great site for learning BaseCamp, http://www.newenglandriders.org/Learn_BaseCamp_PC.pdf after you read this you may start liking BaseCamp. This is a pretty comprehensive learning tool.

It may have been fixed, however TripPlanner in the past which your 66 has, does not really support route planning.

I bought a Nuvi2555LMT and found out it is totally worthless for planning routes because of TripPlanner.

Maybe someone else can chime in on TripPlanner.

Willie
 
I have a 665 with my now totaled bike and may soon have a 660 with new Spyder. I like BaseCamp but now routes on trip are shown as a straight lines between waypoints or straight line totally off screen. Garmin says to use MapSource... REALLY!
 
HD Ride Planner

I think Base Camp is just too complicated. At least it is for me. So I use Harley Davidson's Ride Planner. I was able to pick that up in short order and it does everything I need. No, I don't ride a Harley nor have I ever ridden one. But I do like their route planner.
 
Conaso said:
I have a 665 with my now totaled bike and may soon have a 660 with new Spyder. I like BaseCamp but now routes on trip are shown as a straight lines between waypoints or straight line totally off screen. Garmin says to use MapSource... REALLY!
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The problem will be that you don't have the maps installed locally on your PC so if you don't have the Garmin connected when you're in BaseCamp it will default to 'Global Map' this map has very little detail and so it just draws straight lines between your points or even decides they don't exist, are in the sea, etc.

The trick is to...(once you've got a Garmin again:-))
  • Close Basecamp if it's open
  • Connect your Garmin device to the computer
  • Start Garmin Express if it doesn't start automatically
  • Wait until it's happy that the maps are up-to-date
  • Click on Map Options (blue text just below the name of your map)
  • Click on the Install to Computer button
  • Click Accept when the Terms and Conditions are displayed
  • Click Continue
  • Wait for it to finish (you may also get a message from windows about security, just click Yes)
  • Disconnect your Garmin
  • Start BaseCamp
  • Under the maps menu you should now see the map and hopefully it should also default to that

You'll now find your routes will work correctly in base camp even when you don't have the device connected.

One issue is that this doesn't get updated automatically so when you get an update you have to manually redo the process. There used to be an option in Garmin Express to automatically update both but that seems to have disappeared.

Second issue is that it keeps the previous versions in BaseCamp and I've found no option to remove them from within the software, I normally just delete them directly instead.
 
Fyi have the 660 but not base camp. I have however had luck with the custom route on the unit itself, :p Can be tasking but namely while at spyderfest I programmed the poker run address's in & :thumbup: I could edit the order a few different ways & add additional start & stop points:coffee: If I got side tracked I had my list of recently found to fall back on get me to the hotel & or event:2thumbs: On other occasions I have used my phone to goggle the address (& satellite view )of some where then transfer to the 660. Ez for me cuz I'm never)in (& not going to) a rush;) The fuel gauge on the unit has been handy fyi, not always in the same direction I'm going but it can find a gas station faster & easier & tell me how far off I am. Keeps from getting stuck, just get settings right & reset every tank like (with)a trip meter:thumbup:
 
PistonBlown said:
The problem will be that you don't have the maps installed locally on your PC so if you don't have the Garmin connected when you're in BaseCamp it will default to 'Global Map' this map has very little detail and so it just draws straight lines between your points or even decides they don't exist, are in the sea, etc.

The trick is to...(once you've got a Garmin again:-))
  • Close Basecamp if it's open
  • Connect your Garmin device to the computer
  • Start Garmin Express if it doesn't start automatically
  • Wait until it's happy that the maps are up-to-date
  • Click on Map Options (blue text just below the name of your map)
  • Click on the Install to Computer button
  • Click Accept when the Terms and Conditions are displayed
  • Click Continue
  • Wait for it to finish (you may also get a message from windows about security, just click Yes)
  • Disconnect your Garmin
  • Start BaseCamp
  • Under the maps menu you should now see the map and hopefully it should also default to that

You'll now find your routes will work correctly in base camp even when you don't have the device connected.

One issue is that this doesn't get updated automatically so when you get an update you have to manually redo the process. There used to be an option in Garmin Express to automatically update both but that seems to have disappeared.

Second issue is that it keeps the previous versions in BaseCamp and I've found no option to remove them from within the software, I normally just delete them directly instead.
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Sorry, I probably wasn't clear. GE and BASECAMP work fine. The problem occurs when the route is uploaded to the now 665. Whereas the route used to follow the highway I now see straight lines. If I enter and address in the 665, it will correctly map. I would like to use BC to plan some scenic routes.
 
Tyre

I have been using Tyre for a long time. www.TyreToTravel.com


It was originally designed for TomTom GPS, but now works for both. The program is designed by a motorcycle rider specifically for motorcycle riders. It is a great program with lots of nice features. There is a free version, a "Pro" version, and now there is a mobile app as well.

The "Pro" version will even allow you to create "touristic" routes (at least that is what the developer calls them). Using this feature, you pick a starting point and an ending point, and let the software develop routes automatically that avoids highways, tolls, etc. depending on how you set it up. Or (and this is what I like best), you pick a starting point and tell it how many miles you want to go and it will create "cloverleaf" tours. It is great for traveling to new areas. I typically pick a location, trailer the bike to that location and then do the cloverleaf tours of varying lengths.

Created "Tours" can be downloaded directly to the Garmin without all of the machinations that Garmin would like you to do with their software. You can manage the loaded itineraries on your Garmin directly from the Tyre software without starting another program!!

Check it out.
 
I just use google maps. When I have my route worked out, i just plug in a few waypoints on the Garmin trip planner to re-create the route. IN the end its far easier than any of the available 'upload' methods garmin supports. Google long ago wanted to support direct upload of maps to garmin devices and garmin has held out not licencing their proprietary protocols. They refuse to let others work with their units.
 
I've used "Tyre for Travel" for years. I started with the free version and progressed to the Pro. It was light years ahead of Basecamp and/or Mapsource.

Earlier this year I upgraded to the Pro version of "My Route" from Tyre. It's even slicker. It's mobile and I use it on my iPhone, even making changes as I'm traveling.

I've never encountered any issues of any kind with Tyre products. I've found them intuitive, straight forward, relative easy to learn, accurate and it also integrated well with Google if you want.


Sent from my little piece of paradise!
 
Furkot

Furkot.com, online free tools, set for motorcycle, fuel range, turn on the tabs for good motorcycle roads, name it and export the route as .gpx, import that .gpx into Basecamp and transfer to the Garmin. Or get the app and see the route on your phone/tablet as gps.

Basecamp has a couple good tutorials from 3rd parties, but it is not a simple tool and a company as worldwide as garmin can do better.
 
Bike-O-Din said:
I have been using Tyre for a long time. www.TyreToTravel.com


It was originally designed for TomTom GPS, but now works for both. The program is designed by a motorcycle rider specifically for motorcycle riders. It is a great program with lots of nice features. There is a free version, a "Pro" version, and now there is a mobile app as well.

The "Pro" version will even allow you to create "touristic" routes (at least that is what the developer calls them). Using this feature, you pick a starting point and an ending point, and let the software develop routes automatically that avoids highways, tolls, etc. depending on how you set it up. Or (and this is what I like best), you pick a starting point and tell it how many miles you want to go and it will create "cloverleaf" tours. It is great for traveling to new areas. I typically pick a location, trailer the bike to that location and then do the cloverleaf tours of varying lengths.

Created "Tours" can be downloaded directly to the Garmin without all of the machinations that Garmin would like you to do with their software. You can manage the loaded itineraries on your Garmin directly from the Tyre software without starting another program!!

Check it out.
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Another vote for TYRE. I've been using it for about 5 yrs and I'v never had an issue with it. I use the free version and it does more than I need it to do. Very easy to download to or from your computer to your device or from your device. AND you can email routes to friends if ya wanna plan a group ride and all use the same route. I tried BaseCamp and wasn't impressed.
 
Conaso said:
Sorry, I probably wasn't clear. GE and BASECAMP work fine. The problem occurs when the route is uploaded to the now 665. Whereas the route used to follow the highway I now see straight lines. If I enter and address in the 665, it will correctly map. I would like to use BC to plan some scenic routes.
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Ermm, now that one I've got no answer for, can't say I've come across that one. I know that the Garmin will recalc routes so I'm guessing it's doing that but mucking them up. Almost sounds like it can't tie the map that's being used in BaseCamp with the one in the device but obviously the maps there as otherwise putting an address in to the Garmin wouldn't work. Sorry I can't think of any way to help on that one.
 
I'm sort of able to struggle with building a route and uploading it to my 590.
I'm having trouble understanding the file structure so I can store the file and then open it up at a later date.
I like to store my routes in a folder on a trip by trip basis, along with photos taken during the trip.
The new Base Camp file structure is mysterious to me.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, we will be leaving for Deadwood on Monday morning (7-11-2016) so I wont have much time trying out anything new. I plan on just typing my end point for each day into the Zumo and calling it good for this trip. Have a great week all and be safe out there!

Kent.
 
PistonBlown said:
Ermm, now that one I've got no answer for, can't say I've come across that one. I know that the Garmin will recalc routes so I'm guessing it's doing that but mucking them up. Almost sounds like it can't tie the map that's being used in BaseCamp with the one in the device but obviously the maps there as otherwise putting an address in to the Garmin wouldn't work. Sorry I can't think of any way to help on that one.
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Thanks for the effort. Garmin said "yea, we know about that. Use MapSource." Yea, a product no longer supported. Well, I tried to create trip in BC - save it, import into MS - save it, then export to a Garmin 665. Nope, same problem.

I'm seriously looking at a 2016 RTL... comes with a Garmin 660. Geez, here we go again.
 
I think you will find that the 665 is not supported in Base Camp. We had major problems with routes created in Base Camp and imported into the 665 only to find out after several calls to Garmin, that the 665 was not supported.

PistonBlown said:
The problem will be that you don't have the maps installed locally on your PC so if you don't have the Garmin connected when you're in BaseCamp it will default to 'Global Map' this map has very little detail and so it just draws straight lines between your points or even decides they don't exist, are in the sea, etc.

The trick is to...(once you've got a Garmin again:-))
  • Close Basecamp if it's open
  • Connect your Garmin device to the computer
  • Start Garmin Express if it doesn't start automatically
  • Wait until it's happy that the maps are up-to-date
  • Click on Map Options (blue text just below the name of your map)
  • Click on the Install to Computer button
  • Click Accept when the Terms and Conditions are displayed
  • Click Continue
  • Wait for it to finish (you may also get a message from windows about security, just click Yes)
  • Disconnect your Garmin
  • Start BaseCamp
  • Under the maps menu you should now see the map and hopefully it should also default to that

You'll now find your routes will work correctly in base camp even when you don't have the device connected.

One issue is that this doesn't get updated automatically so when you get an update you have to manually redo the process. There used to be an option in Garmin Express to automatically update both but that seems to have disappeared.

Second issue is that it keeps the previous versions in BaseCamp and I've found no option to remove them from within the software, I normally just delete them directly instead.
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