Helibars...

[Sopher]

I am currently under a NDA, but I think I can tell you the amount of rise and pullback. I have to get my notes that I left in my truck, when I get my it back from the garage; Cylinders misfiring due to a bad coil.

Please don't misunderstand me; I like Kewlmetal products and I like NMN products. I actually have serveral products from NMN. I am only asking for a short time while they finish thier product. I just want others to be able to choose. Each do have their own benifits and drawbacks. Each rider has their own likes and dislikes. (It could be like picking a president with out any debates, without any knowledge of the candidate, and skipping any vetting process.)

I would also like to point out that Heli modified has several very large very powerful CNC machines. Powder coating, anodizing and I think chroming machines for finishes.

 

[effgjamis]

No you are worng!

Currently the NMN riser kit is the only riser kit that lets you keep the PE plates in place.

MM

I now would like to ask a question or two.
I have the 4" risers installed.
I would like to expand on those risers, such as 6".
However, I do realize that the stock wiring and cables will not work.
Question,,,, are there extended cables, ( add ons ) or ( complete longer cables ). If so, are they available and what is the cost of same?

Needless to say,,, I am happy and they do function for me, but an additional 2-3 inches, with my disability, would be SUPER..

Thanks in advance

 

[NVR2L8]

Just my 2 cents but....I think your going to be looking at a set of Custom made cables to accomplish what your attempting to do.
Might be able to research the lengths needed and perhaps they're available for a different model bike that could cross over to the Spyder. Custom cables are gonna $$$$ ya.

 

[Sopher]

I found my notes on what I can disclose.

With the stock riser (i.e no add-on) the bars will be 1" taller and 4.5" back.
With the BRP 1" add-on riser installed, the bars are 2" taller and 5" back.

Yes 5". the trick was not revealed, but I can ask.

I also provided Helibars with about 12 highly desired add-ons that have been mentioned in all the forums. If anyone can design the CNC cad-cam products, these folks can.

(p.s. I choose not to antagonize others. At least this time.)
My fervent hope is that more products will be available to all and serve the Spyder community as a whole. :2excited:

 

[SpyderRyder810]

I see that I'm not the only one that has a specific need regarding the handlebar issue. What surprises me though is how many others (those not vertically challenged nor with a disability) that have already talked about the benefits from NMN risers...e.g. relief of tension in neck, arms, and hands. Given the benefits they've received, I think you all can imagine the benefit those of us with specific needs would derive if we had handlebar/handgrips that fit or were adjustable. With that said, raising the handlebar and bringing it back solves only half my problem. I also need the handgrips to angle inward somewhat. I can't help but think that there are more people out there with the same or similar issues and that there is indeed a niche for products that will help us. So here are three questions for Evan, Lamont, and Sopher, and anyone out there that knows how to measure angles. (1) Evan, what did your engineer say with regards to the risers? (2)Evan & Lamont, how do I go about measuring the degree to which the handgrips need to angle inward? (3) Sopher, will the helibars for the Spyder be adjustable like in their video? Thanks to all of you for your input...Joan

 

[Bimjo]

I just had a thought. Is anyone familiar with the old ball CB antenna mounts? They have a split ball with a bolt to hold the 2 halves together while allowing the halves to rotate to keep the antenna vertical regardless of the angle that the base of the ball is mounted.

Seems like it shouldn't be that difficult to make something like that to allow the bar under the grips to do the same thing ie. move forward & backward to allow the grip to be angled more toward or away from the rider.

They look like this. By rotating the ball base of the mounting bolt and then rotating the other half of the ball you can put these in nearly any position you want in 1/2 of a hemisphere.

Could be adapted to handlebars?

 

[deanarm]

Heli Bars

The riser made by the two companies on here are first rate. I had a Ducati 749 that I bought Heli bars for and the dealer nor I could make them work the way they were suppose too. Heli was no help there only answer was they had fit them to several bikes so I was out the money spend and the money the dealer charged me for trying to make them fit. There stuff is pretty but does not always work. I would rather buy from someone that rides what I ride then I know it will work or at least they can tell me what I am doing wrong.

 

[hevnbound]

I have MM's risers - haven't put them on yet but intend to do so before Gatlinburg. I'm sure they will work great because I had the chance to try them out on Lamont's Spyder before Magic Man even started building them! I also llike the concept and look of Kewl Metal's set-up. MM's just appeal to me more for my taste.

However, after saying all of that, I do question MM's rant about the Helibars?? WOW! I wouldn't want that man mad at me. Didn't I read somewhere that he was a powerlifter in his younger days ???... :shocked:

I've used Helibars on a couple of sport bikes and they are great. The adjustability of those units were fantastic. I could set the bars up for high speed cruising. When I reached the twisties, I could adjust them forward for optimun hadling in just a few minutes. I loved that feature. I really don't see however, that this would be of any benefit on the Spyder. I do question the need for yet another choice of risers. Also, I do agree with MM that it's time to "see them" or, at least to see something to show that this is not just a figment of someone's imagination to do a market test to see if they even want to go to the effort of drawing up a schematic. Maybe it was just a case of too early of a statement release. That has sure happened on other well intentioned vendors regarding Spyder options.

 

[Sopher]

<snip> Also, I do agree with MM that it's time to "see them" or, at least to see something to show that this is not just a figment of someone's imagination to do a market test to see if they even want to go to the effort of drawing up a schematic. Maybe it was just a case of too early of a statement release. That has sure happened on other well intentioned vendors regarding Spyder options.

Actually it's more that the product is nearing production and being finalized. Even the unit I have does not have a final finish- just bare aluminum. They will be completed very soon.

 

[Lamonster]

Just read this on the Talk board.

From my understanding it is rather a simple install, an adapter that attaches to either the stock riser, or the 1" riser if one has that installed. Using the stock riser the Helibar unit will raise the bars by 1" and moves them back 4.5". If installed onto the 1" riser, the bars will be raised a total of 2" and moves them back 5". The stock handlebars, cover, throttle, and other items do not need to be modified or changed. The ignition/key assembly is relocated (moves forward to retain the standard position) and provides a 12-volt outlet and provisions for mounting a GPS or similar accessory.

So there is no adjustment to this setup that I can see. It moves it back and up the thickness and lenght of the adaptor. The bars remain stock.
My guess is they did this to work with the Corbin fairing seeing they are buds and the No Magic and Kewlmetal both hit the fairing. So if you have that fairing these would solve that issue.

A fixed rise and pullback wouldn't do me much good seeing I wanted mine to go up more than back. 4 or 5" back would jam me up big time.

It is good that there are more options now but it sounds like the Heli options has a lot of limitations. I'm sure it will be a well made product though.

 

[Magic Man]

If you remember I had the BIG $$$ Corbin faring on my Spyder when I first came up with our riser design too.

I tried real hard to make risers work, look good, and play nice with the Corbin as I had $1500 in faring on my own Spyder. But same as Heli, I found I had to bring them way back and low so the bars would not hit the faring in turns.

To me it also looked kind of weird so far back and so low, and was also way too low to be comfortable for me. So, I had to scrap my $1500 faring as being comfortable with the risers was way more important to me than total wind protection.

I did not know that Heli and Corbin are friends? :dontknow:

Now it makes sense as to why so much pull back and so little rise in this design. I wonder if Corbin asked him to make a riser to work with his faring after Corbin sat on and saw Lamonster's Spyder in Sturgis? The time line seems about right for this?

This huge amount of pull back with so little rise is just what I had to do to make risers play nice with my Corbin faring too. It just did not look quite right to me, and as Lamonster said, it did jam up my seating position with the bars so close and low. So, I took off the faring and went with the design you all see now and a Cal -Sci windshield.

It sounds like this riser may be just the ticket for all the people with BIG $$$$ Corbin farings. :thumbup:


MM

 

[bjt]

That stinks if thats what Helibars did for the Spyder. It would have been better if the came up with bars that worked like the ones they make in this YouTube video.


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[Lamonster]

Those are very nice. :thumbup:

Not sure how many Spyder owners would pay $849.00 for them but they are trick. :doorag:
http://www.helibars.com/proddetail.php?prod=HZ900

 

[bjt]

The same ones that pay $800 for a seat, $1500 for a fairing or saddlebags, $600 for an exhaust.....

 

[Lamonster]

Tharkin posted the details on SpyderTalk

After looking at the pics I don't see why you would wait to buy these compared to the No Magic or Kewlmetal. :dontknow:

First off as I thought there is no adjustment, they move back and up at a fixed position. I'm not sure how tall Tharkin is but I don't remember him being a very big guy maybe 5'8 or so and yet he is still bent over in this pic. Look at Keith and Tharkin side by side. Notice the arms.

Here you can see how it's mounted. There is a rise to the bars but you lose some of that to the angle of the mount. Not sure if I would like my key hanging out there in the middle of nowhere either.

To me this just looks unfinished.

They did provide you a place for a power outlet and a Ram mount where the key once was.

The good news is you do get to keep your PE number and pretty much everything else stays stock. It will work with the Corbin fairing I'm told too.

So there you have it. We now have three choices for relocating the bars. Two of them you can buy today and one of them :dontknow:

 

[daddydarko]

The choice for me came down to bar space. NMN's product looked great and the price was right but I'm mounting speakers and some other goodies. It sounds like NMN may have a solution for this before long.

The Kewlmetal bars have been great. If nothing else, they've taught me that the stock Spyder is not feasible for touring. I'm 29 and the 10k miles I had on the stock bars have left me feeling like an old man.

I'll probably have my PE number added to the console at some point but I'm not sure I care. BRP really screwed the PE system up IMO. You know who else liked to mark their number on things...

Too soon for Godwin's Theory? :dontknow:

As for the Helibars- bleck. Good luck to them and I love to see more action in the aftermarket providers but not my thang.

 

[boogllasti]

Those photos of the Heli-bars don't show the completed cover unit for the key area.

I think it will be a good 3rd option for those that don't want to lose the center panel.

I personally don't want to lose my center panel, but also don't like the look of the setup where you cut your bars and just raise the end.

I was hoping the Heli setup was adjustable.

 

[Lamonster]

Those photos of the Heli-bars don't show the completed cover unit for the key area.

I think it will be a good 3rd option for those that don't want to lose the center panel.

I personally don't want to lose my center panel, but also don't like the look of the setup where you cut your bars and just raise the end.

I was hoping the Heli setup was adjustable.

Have you seen the completed cover? I didn't know there was one but it needs one, that's for sure.

I would like to see a pic of that setup in a full lock too seeing it so far back and low.

 

[Magic Man]

Have you seen the completed cover? I didn't know there was one but it needs one, that's for sure.

I would like to see a pic of that setup in a full lock too seeing it so far back and low.

:agree:

MM

 

[NancysToy]

I'm 29 and the 10k miles I had on the stock bars have left me feeling like an old man.

You know what they say, DD. It's not the age, it's the mileage!
-Scotty