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how to turn off the kill switch?
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billybovine
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You did not share what year your RT is, but the wiring diagrams that I have seen show the kill switch is directly wired to the ECM. Not sure if it could be disconnected, shorted out or a resistor put in the circuit without further research.
Bfromla
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:hun:Why would you want to:dontknow::dontknow::lecturef_smilie: It is ez to not use it, but is there as a safety feature for all motorcycles 
Fyi a copy paste from info I found:
Most motorcycle training courses suggest that you get in the habit of using the motorcycle KILL switch to shut off your bike. The reasoning is that if you don't use it, it won't work when you need to use it.
Much confusion occurs in traffic when you inadvertently trip the KILL switch and then can't figure out why the bike won't restart. Always look at the KILL switch first.
Fyi a copy paste from info I found:Most motorcycle training courses suggest that you get in the habit of using the motorcycle KILL switch to shut off your bike. The reasoning is that if you don't use it, it won't work when you need to use it.
Much confusion occurs in traffic when you inadvertently trip the KILL switch and then can't figure out why the bike won't restart. Always look at the KILL switch first.
guzzihack
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help from the better half
Back in the day when I road Ossas or my ATK, I know I'm dating myself, the kill switch would save a motor from running wild after stuffing the throttle grip in the dirt. Since then, they've just been a source of irritation. Like trying to kick start my Norton after a buddy rode it and shut it off with the kill switch. If I can reach the kill switch I probably can reach the key. But now I have to check it after the mrs. gets on or off Tundra because she's a little grabby. As you can guess, I think they're a pita so I can understand why he'd like to eliminate them. Don't recall needing one in the van.
Back in the day when I road Ossas or my ATK, I know I'm dating myself, the kill switch would save a motor from running wild after stuffing the throttle grip in the dirt. Since then, they've just been a source of irritation. Like trying to kick start my Norton after a buddy rode it and shut it off with the kill switch. If I can reach the kill switch I probably can reach the key. But now I have to check it after the mrs. gets on or off Tundra because she's a little grabby. As you can guess, I think they're a pita so I can understand why he'd like to eliminate them. Don't recall needing one in the van.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
IMO: leave the kill switch to serve its intended function--if ever needed. :thumbup:
pegasus1300
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So what is it you want to accomplish?
kbwitt
New member
Are you kidding with that question?
pegasus1300
Well-known member
No I am not trying to be a wise ass why would you even think that? It is unusual to want to disable a safety devise and I wanted to know why so that maybe an alternate solution would present itself. If disconnecting your kill switch is the only thing that will suffice,then wire across the switch and be done with it. The switch is just a bridge.
BLUEKNIGHT911
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....." DUCT TAPE IT "..... That way it can easily be un-done :bbq:Mike
....." DUCT TAPE IT "..... That way it can easily be un-done :bbq:Mike
PMK
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Not to steal Pegasus thunder here, but seriously, if you want it disabled then it should be within easy to make happen.
Most kill switches either accomplish grounding or interrupt a portion of the ignition circuit.
Best advice in order to disable it would be to dis-assemble the right side handlebar area exposing the switch. Disconnect the handlebar wire harness, then using a multimeter verify if the switch in the run position is placed open or closed circuit. If the circuit is open to run, disconnect the wires and cap them. If the circuit is closed to run, splice the two wires together.
I would ensure you have the wire harness disconnected prior to testing with the meter so the meters low voltage output does not spike the on-board electronics.
Truth told, while some are against it, no doubt many of us have seen where a person on a motorcycle used the kill switch, forgot to turn off the key and returned to a dead battery. As racers, we often position the kill switch away from stock location to prevent accidentally killing the engine at a less than optimum time.
Myself, the two merits in keeping the kill switch would be if you had an SE series and the key switch failed it would at least allow the bike to be shutdown. And yes in a crisis it does provide a form of a backup to kill the engine only without shutting down the onboard electronics which may include the power steering and ABS.
Most kill switches either accomplish grounding or interrupt a portion of the ignition circuit.
Best advice in order to disable it would be to dis-assemble the right side handlebar area exposing the switch. Disconnect the handlebar wire harness, then using a multimeter verify if the switch in the run position is placed open or closed circuit. If the circuit is open to run, disconnect the wires and cap them. If the circuit is closed to run, splice the two wires together.
I would ensure you have the wire harness disconnected prior to testing with the meter so the meters low voltage output does not spike the on-board electronics.
Truth told, while some are against it, no doubt many of us have seen where a person on a motorcycle used the kill switch, forgot to turn off the key and returned to a dead battery. As racers, we often position the kill switch away from stock location to prevent accidentally killing the engine at a less than optimum time.
Myself, the two merits in keeping the kill switch would be if you had an SE series and the key switch failed it would at least allow the bike to be shutdown. And yes in a crisis it does provide a form of a backup to kill the engine only without shutting down the onboard electronics which may include the power steering and ABS.
Bob Denman
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Pegasus' question was a valid one... I was going to ask it also.
If you don't like the kill-switch: just don't use it...
It's better to have it, and not need it; than need it, and not have it. nojoke
If you don't like the kill-switch: just don't use it...
It's better to have it, and not need it; than need it, and not have it. nojoke
PrairieSpyder
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Or like trying to start your bike after forgetting to turn on the gas! Spyder ryders may have to wait for the computer to boot, but at least we don't have to deal with a gas switch!
PMK
Active member
I hear the fuel petcock off loud and clear. True story...Pepperell Motocross track in the late 70's. The race had a mishap and we had to go back to the gate for a restart. For some silly schoolboy reason I shut the fuel off while waiting. A couple minutes later, we refired the bikes, and the gate dropped. With a good start in the top 5, we hit the second straight and flew over the jumps. Second jump, mid air my RM125 has that wah,wah feeling to the motor. Mid air I reach down and turn on the fuel.
Kill switches can be similar, sometimes at the most inopportune moment they get bumped into the engine stop position.
For the Spyder I may have only tested that ours worked 1 time. Honestly, I just ignore it and leave it on. But for you guys, next ride I will verify it work.
Devious56
New member
I think that is a very practical question, since you are asking how to disable a safety device that has proven itself many times over the years. Yes, at times it can be inconvienient, but if a simple switch is too difficult to conceive, or remember it's there, than maybe you shouldn't be riding a dangerous enough vehicle. If I helped some one to disable a safety feature, and they wound up getting hurt, or worse, I know how I would feel.
David
bronzeflex42
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:dontknow: i wouldn't bother it. I like to know it is there if i need it though. 
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hyea:hyea:Big Will 51
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Depending on where you live, and if you need a State inspection. Having it disabled could fail your bike and force you to get it enabled again before you can ride it.
kbwitt
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Thank You mother for telling me I should not be riding such a dangerous vehicle. I promise I am not walkig or runing with any sharp objects in my hand. If thats how you feel a spyder is a dangerous vehicle maybe you should think about selling yours.
I asked a straight forward question how to disconnect something I did not want. When I want life living questions I will call you.
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