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Just found these RPM levels for the 1330

Love the feel of the Spyder "coming on the cam" so to speak. The ECU flash gives good power and kept in the right rev range, my Spyder is NOT down on power (intake and exhaust mods help also). I've also recently added a fuel injector cleaner to my poor old slow Dodge Hemi and now to the Spyder also. Using top tier fuel also has cleaners that help keep the carbon buildup on valves to a minimum.

Lew L
 
All this higher RPMs lower gears must be rough on the miles per gallon, but most of us did not buy a Spyder or Ryker for the fuel economy.

I get into 6th gear on the 55 MPH secondary roads. Most time run 60 on them. You can usually get away with 5 over the limit, except in school zones. Will drop a gear or two for passing or steep hill. I'm sure everybody is aware of all the steep mountain roads we got in Florida. I gear down for them too.
High Point this post: https://www.visitflorida.com/travel-ideas/articles/arts-history-britton-hill-highest-point-florida/
 
All this higher RPMs lower gears must be rough on the miles per gallon, but most of us did not buy a Spyder or Ryker for the fuel economy.

I get into 6th gear on the 55 MPH secondary roads. Most time run 60 on them. You can usually get away with 5 over the limit, except in school zones. Will drop a gear or two for passing or steep hill. I'm sure everybody is aware of all the steep mountain roads we got in Florida. I gear down for them too.
High Point this post: https://www.visitflorida.com/travel-ideas/articles/arts-history-britton-hill-highest-point-florida/
You might be surprised! :sneaky:

By running the engine in its optimal rev range, the engine will probably be a lot more economical than it would be if it was running significantly below that optimal rev range (Or above their optimal revs for that matter, but you'd probably be more upset about the speeding fines than the fuel usage! :rolleyes:)

Certainly my V-Twin gets MUCH better fuel economy if I use the gears to keep its revs above about 5000 rpm regardless of the speed I'm travelling at than it does if I run up thru the gears as soon as I can and run around town at 3500 rpm (or maybe a tad lower) in too high of a gear!! And then there's all the wear & tear on the clutch to consider (torque does go both ways!) as well as the carbon build up in the engine too!! 😣

Here in South Oz, if I want to stay within the Town Speed limit of 50 kph, I need to keep the RT in Second Gear, where it's pulling 3500 rpm! Go to any higher gear in order to drop the revs without increasing my speed, and it's fuel usage per km goes thru the roof!! :cautious:

I haven't keep any really strict fuel economy records of the various 1330's I've run around here, even those I've run for extended periods; but IIRC, they've all been much the same - run them at revs that are too low and their fuel economy is noticeably worse than it is when I keep them running in their optimal rev range. ;)
 
I would surprised if the fuel economy was better in a lower gear. When I lived on the island of Taiwan the speed limit was 60 klicks outside of town and 35 klicks in town. There wasn't much road outside of town. Had to keep dropping it to 35 klicks passing through all the small towns and villages along the road. I had 350 Honda with a 4 speed. I almost never got it in 4th gear and very seldom got above 2nd gear. Even if the speed limit was higher out of town, you couldn't often run it. Too many bicycles, ox carts, and farm wagons on the roads. I sure didn't get much gas mileage there.
 
I would surprised if the fuel economy was better in a lower gear. When I lived on the island of Taiwan the speed limit was 60 klicks outside of town and 35 klicks in town. There wasn't much road outside of town. Had to keep dropping it to 35 klicks passing through all the small towns and villages along the road. I had 350 Honda with a 4 speed. I almost never got it in 4th gear and very seldom got above 2nd gear. Even if the speed limit was higher out of town, you couldn't often run it. Too many bicycles, ox carts, and farm wagons on the roads. I sure didn't get much gas mileage there.

Changing speed up and down isn't ever going to be all that good for fuel economy, but if you can get into your engine's optimal rev range and then use your gears to keep the revs in that range, preferably with as little throttle movement as possible, even if you are in a lower gear than the highest your engine could pull at that speed, the engine is going to be running at or near its most efficient almost all the time; and that will almost always give you better fuel economy than you'd get by using the throttle a lot and hunting for 'better fuel economy' all the time in a higher gear. (y)

Running Driver/Rider Training and long distance 'Tag-a-long Tours' with some Driver/Rider Training thrown in, I've seen it time & time again - once drivers/riders learn where their engine is running at its most efficient, then start using the gears to keep the engine in that rev range at whatever speed is necessary/allowed, they'll get better fuel economy than they ever do if they just chase the highest gear without paying attention to the engine's most efficient rev range. And it works even if you have conditions like those you found in Taiwan!! There's times & conditions where it might not be fantastic fuel economy, but if you keep the revs in the optimal range for the engine's efficiency, and use your gears to help do that while giving you the road speed you want &/or the best speed you can reasonably use given the circumstances, you'll get better fuel economy than you will if you ignore the ideal rev range and just chase the highest gear. It works, once you get it down pat! ;)
 
Changing speed up and down isn't ever going to be all that good for fuel economy, but if you can get into your engine's optimal rev range and then use your gears to keep the revs in that range, preferably with as little throttle movement as possible, even if you are in a lower gear than the highest your engine could pull at that speed, the engine is going to be running at or near its most efficient almost all the time; and that will almost always give you better fuel economy than you'd get by using the throttle a lot and hunting for 'better fuel economy' all the time in a higher gear. (y)

Running Driver/Rider Training and long distance 'Tag-a-long Tours' with some Driver/Rider Training thrown in, I've seen it time & time again - once drivers/riders learn where their engine is running at its most efficient, then start using the gears to keep the engine in that rev range at whatever speed is necessary/allowed, they'll get better fuel economy than they ever do if they just chase the highest gear without paying attention to the engine's most efficient rev range. And it works even if you have conditions like those you found in Taiwan!! There's times & conditions where it might not be fantastic fuel economy, but if you keep the revs in the optimal range for the engine's efficiency, and use your gears to help do that while giving you the road speed you want &/or the best speed you can reasonably use given the circumstances, you'll get better fuel economy than you will if you ignore the ideal rev range and just chase the highest gear. It works, once you get it down pat! ;)
All that could be true, but you have to run whatever speed the road conditions allow. I have about a mile and a half of dirt road to get to the highway from my house. I never shift up from 4th gear on the dirt road. It is not a real bad road. It has had crushed limerock dumped on it over the years until the sugar sand gets hard packed and usually fairly smooth, but I still don't ever shift up out of 4th gear, so I am doing the higher RPM thing even if I may not be doing it intentionally. Really though, I did not buy a 1330 with 6 gears to save on gasoline. I can afford all the gasoline needed. Used to get about 70 miles per gallon with a TS185 dirt bike. I didn't buy it for mileage either. It was another toy to play with in the dirt, but it did get good mileage on the highway. Good gas mileage is not something at the top of the list when I look at a motorcycle or a truck. I buy what I want and what I need to haul loads or tow trailers. My truck doesn't average much more than about 16 or 17 miles per gallon, but a little economy truck with a 4 cylinder would not be safe pulling trailers loaded with round bales or the equipment trailer with the tractor tied down on it. I don't always have a trailer hooked to the truck, but when I do, the truck needs to be big and heavy enough with a sturdy towing package to handle the job. There ain't no perfect vehicle of any kind. It is always a compromise.
 
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I am new to spyder riding I have a 2020 rt
At 80 years I decided my two wheel Harley needed one more wheel to keep me up right I. Still have it can’t bear to part with my 1996 Harley 1200 cc custom
I see posts for rpm shift points at 4k-5k but my 2020 rt seems to like 3200
At highway (75) it wants to settle in around 3000-3200 if drop to 5th it settles at 4500
To keep it above 4k I would never get out of 4th
Love the ride and it books up my Colorado mountain passes
 
I am new to spyder riding I have a 2020 rt
At 80 years I decided my two wheel Harley needed one more wheel to keep me up right I. Still have it can’t bear to part with my 1996 Harley 1200 cc custom
I see posts for rpm shift points at 4k-5k but my 2020 rt seems to like 3200
At highway (75) it wants to settle in around 3000-3200 if drop to 5th it settles at 4500
To keep it above 4k I would never get out of 4th
Love the ride and it books up my Colorado mountain passes
The shift points you see above 4K are for the 998 engine not the 1300. I have found depending on gear and traffic I shift the 1330 anywhere from 2300 to 4000 with the occasional run up to 6500 when in a hurry. Have you noticed with the 1330 that if you try to shift and it thinks the RPM's are too low it simply will not shift?
 
The shift points you see above 4K are for the 998 engine not the 1300. I have found depending on gear and traffic I shift the 1330 anywhere from 2300 to 4000 with the occasional run up to 6500 when in a hurry. Have you noticed with the 1330 that if you try to shift and it thinks the RPM's are too low it simply will not shift?
No I haven’t tried low rpm shift might check it out for a reference point
I do have to go from 6th to 5th when merging on to the interstate And need a burst and at 4k or 4500k hit 6th again and I get a slingshot effect and it settles back to 3200k
 
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