Ok, so a final question involving the air bag on the 2016 F3-T

[acdcking12]

Ok, so I see posts everywhere explaining the air bag, etc. Even the label for max pressures during 1 up or 2. But I am not understanding said label.

SO what is the max pressure one can put in this air bag without it exploding?

 

[larryd]

I have a dash air gauge on my 2014 RTS along with my own design "air on demand air system"...When riding 2 up I set the static pressure at 80 lbs, which translates to 100 lbs setting still loaded...I often see the gauge fluctuate to 110 lbs when the bike dips and dives...Never a problem yet in two years...larryd

 

[larryd]

Here are two video's of installing the Baker Air Wing aftermarket air ride system to a Spyder with only a manual air ride system...The second video shows the installer setting the air pressure as a starting point for riding 1 up and then riding 2 up...This is also a cheap fix for someone needing a compressor replacement that only has limited mechanical skills...larryd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H325EL9pNns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErHcj3TGqhY

 

[Peter Aawen]

Acdcking, my 2013 RT Ltd came with a label on it that was basically saying that the OE Airbag should never be inflated less than 10 psi or over 90psi, with a warning that running static pressures any lower than 10 psi during operation would damage the bag & that during operation the air bag pressure reached would be somewhat higher than the 90 psi max static inflation limit...... :thumbup:

I've also encountered many similar air bag systems with similar min/max restrictions - except that while the min pressure is always something like 5-10 psi regardless of air bag size, the max pressure allowed varies in accordance with the volume & design of the bag.... altho basically, bigger air bags have higher max volumes! :lecturef_smilie:

 

[Rattlebars]

I run mine @40psi for one up... my bag doesn't leak down.

 

[Rattlebars]

I have a dash air gauge on my 2014 RTS along with my own design "air on demand air system"...When riding 2 up I set the static pressure at 80 lbs, which translates to 100 lbs setting still loaded...I often see the gauge fluctuate to 110 lbs when the bike dips and dives...Never a problem yet in two years...larryd

Sure would like to see that!

 

[larryd]

Sure would like to see that!

My 2014 RTS had 2 air compressor failures...When the second one failed it was out of warranty...I was never happy with the constant off and on running of the factory set up...I replaced my factory compressor with the Viair that many are using...I put a dash air pressure gauge in place of the factory temp gauge...I rewired the hard/soft rocker switch to activate the compressor and the dump valve...I removed the leveling rod...I replaced all the push lock air fitting with compression type...I installed a cup under the air bag...https://www.supplyhouse.com/Fernco-Q...iABEgKhHfD_BwE...And I recently added a connection to the air system that I can air up a low tire with my Viair "air on demand air system"...larryd

PS. If your ever next door riding in PA I'll gladly give you a garage tour and show you some nice riding areas in our part of the country...larryd

 

[Rattlebars]

My 2014 RTS had 2 air compressor failures...When the second one failed it was out of warranty...I was never happy with the constant off and on running of the factory set up...I replaced my factory compressor with the Viair that many are using...I put a dash air pressure gauge in place of the factory temp gauge...I rewired the hard/soft rocker switch to activate the compressor and the dump valve...I removed the leveling rod...I replaced all the push lock air fitting with compression type...I installed a cup under the air bag...https://www.supplyhouse.com/Fernco-Q...iABEgKhHfD_BwE...And I recently added a connection to the air system that I can air up a low tire with my Viair "air on demand air system"...larryd

PS. If your ever next door riding in PA I'll gladly give you a garage tour and show you some nice riding areas in our part of the country...larryd

Thanx for the info. Invaluable. I ordered a small pump on eBay (pic) for $23 which is 5"x6"x1.75" --- small enough to mount on my F3T inside the left bag. The Plumbing won't be a problem and I can use the gauge on the pump itself. I will add plumbing to it for use as an actual tire inflator. I rarely ride 2 up so running it from the seat with a gauge is not an issue. I'll just stop on the side of the road to pump up. I run 40PSI normally for just me and my bag doesn't leak down for a good month. Thanks again for the info.

I'm currently in SC near Greenville. If and when I get back up to Youngstown OH I will take you up. Almost 3hrs from Heston but we could probably meet halfway. I have ridden extensively in PA (on a Valkyrie, Gl1800 and my F3T, mostly the northwest. I have several routes made which we frequent and you can look them over at http://www.rattlebars.com/MVSR/.

 

[larryd]

Thanx for the info. Invaluable. I ordered a small pump on eBay (pic) for $23 which is 5"x6"x1.75" --- small enough to mount on my F3T inside the left bag. The Plumbing won't be a problem and I can use the gauge on the pump itself. I will add plumbing to it for use as an actual tire inflator. I rarely ride 2 up so running it from the seat with a gauge is not an issue. I'll just stop on the side of the road to pump up. I run 40PSI normally for just me and my bag doesn't leak down for a good month. Thanks again for the info.

I'm currently in SC near Greenville. If and when I get back up to Youngstown OH I will take you up. Almost 3hrs from Heston but we could probably meet halfway. I have ridden extensively in PA (on a Valkyrie, Gl1800 and my F3T, mostly the northwest. I have several routes made which we frequent and you can look them over at http://www.rattlebars.com/MVSR/.
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Looked your riding routes over and been to several of those places...

Here is one of my favorites...https://visitanf.com/kinzua-sky-walk-kinzua-bridge-state-park/

Maybe we can meet up there one day???

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