SPYDER loses RACE

[Way2Fast]

Some people here don't seem interested in other 3 wheeled vehicles. Jealousy perhaps? I for one, enjoy seeing what the competition has come up with. I may own a Spyder but I am certainly NOT a Spyder lover. First year vehicle or not, there is no valid reason for releasing a product that has as many issues as the Spyder. BRP tested this contraption for years before introduction....didn't they learn anything ?

As for the TT-Busa, it was just sold. I was already planning on having it replace the Spyder in my garage. I may have to custom order one.

Richard

 

[Way2Fast]

Guess you don't use a cell phone, or a cordless phone, or drive a car, or a bike, or even eat or do anything except lay in the bed all day oh wait that can kill you too!

Anyways to each his own me i love the spyder and definately wouldn't choose a busa over it. Speed is not everything and performance is not everything but i would be willing to bet that the Spyder will corner better than the Busa converted will.

You missed my point.....I was referring to the Spyders computers, whose malfunction CAN kill you.....it almost happened to me !

 

[Motza]

Some people here don't seem interested in other 3 wheeled vehicles. Jealousy perhaps? I for one, enjoy seeing what the competition has come up with. I may own a Spyder but I am certainly NOT a Spyder lover. First year vehicle or not, there is no valid reason for releasing a product that has as many issues as the Spyder. BRP tested this contraption for years before introduction....didn't they learn anything ?

As for the TT-Busa, it was just sold. I was already planning on having it replace the Spyder in my garage. I may have to custom order one.

(Spyder trader) just kidding...if you do order it I'll see it before you do...

 

[bone crusher]

Way2fast,

I don't think jealousy plays in here with this discussion at all...if I wanted something else, I'd buy it...many here would do the same as well. We all bought the spyder for various reasons but the spyder is the bond that we all share. It's what makes our family unique.

This forum is for spyderlovers...hence the name. We don't tend to discuss BMW bikes, hondas, etc...there are enthusiast boards for those bikes...

A comparison here and there is good and healthy, but trying to make a big deal of another product when everyone here discusses the spyder is rather fruitless.

Just my 2 cents...take it or leave it....

On that note...enjoy your spyder!

:cheers:

 

[Motza]

You missed my point.....I was referring to the Spyders computers, whose malfunction CAN kill you.....it almost happened to me !

What do you mean, what happen?

 

[AMTJIM]

You missed my point.....I was referring to the Spyders computers, whose malfunction CAN kill you.....it almost happened to me !

chinese scooter

 

[Motza]

Some people here don't seem interested in other 3 wheeled vehicles. Jealousy perhaps? I for one, enjoy seeing what the competition has come up with. I may own a Spyder but I am certainly NOT a Spyder lover. First year vehicle or not, there is no valid reason for releasing a product that has as many issues as the Spyder. BRP tested this contraption for years before introduction....didn't they learn anything ?

As for the TT-Busa, it was just sold. I was already planning on having it replace the Spyder in my garage. I may have to custom order one.

Richard

To be plunt, we all spent alot of money for the Spyder $14900-$18900.
For that kind of money you could of purchased a New Honda Civic, or Toyota, both bulletproof in every aspect. Lots more amenities than the Spyder,
More reliable, lot more technology put into R&D etc. the list goes on.
If poeple feel that they did not get a quality item then get out of it, that simple. Sell it an move on. Personally I just started riding my Spyder SE5 and I'm enjoying it. Yes, I feel like I paid to much for the bike and I it was over priced by about $6000, but I wanted it... so I got it. As for the safety issue that's something totally different and should be seriously addressed by your dealer, hence BRP.
This is not a snow mobile or wave runner its (street legal) means of transportation, and quality, and safety should be at the top of the manufacturers list.
The End...

 

[Way2Fast]

What do you mean, what happen?

I started a thread about what happened during a ride on my Spyder elsewhere on this forum. Briefly....it developed a mind of it's own and kept on wanting to jump lanes into the oncoming traffic. Computer malfunction ? From the posts received, it seems like I'm not the only one who experienced strange and dangerous Spyder behavior. I know the dealer (some 80 miles distant) will be clueless and I'm not ready to tempt suicide yet, so the Spyder stays locked in the garage. I just purchased a new Suzuki GSX650F sport bike, so I don't miss using the Spyder. The
Suzuki has quiet brakes, doesn't "moan" at slow speeds, runs and shifts smoother than any bike I ever owned. For the cost of a problem infected Spyder I could purchase 2 GSX's and have 2 grand left over !!:spyder:

 

[bone crusher]

I started a thread about what happened during a ride on my Spyder elsewhere on this forum. Briefly....it developed a mind of it's own and kept on wanting to jump lanes into the oncoming traffic. Computer malfunction ? From the posts received, it seems like I'm not the only one who experienced strange and dangerous Spyder behavior. I know the dealer (some 80 miles distant) will be clueless and I'm not ready to tempt suicide yet, so the Spyder stays locked in the garage. I just purchased a new Suzuki GSX650F sport bike, so I don't miss using the Spyder. The
Suzuki has quiet brakes, doesn't "moan" at slow speeds, runs and shifts smoother than any bike I ever owned. For the cost of a problem infected Spyder I could purchase 2 GSX's and have 2 grand left over !!:spyder:

Agreed...have fun on the GSX board...seems like a lively group there...should have good conversation...can always talk about the Spyder there...oh, wait...they'll probably send you back here...

Hmmmmmm...

 

[Way2Fast]

I'll say one thing....I have yet to see anyone with any complaints or problems with the Suzuki GSX650F posting on that forum. Same with the forums on the other bike I own, a Yamaha Raider. Both these bikes were new for 2008, just like the Spyder, yet they seem to be almost problem free....a far cry from our beloved Spyder ! BRP had better wake up, if the Spyder gets a reputation like their 951 PWC engine or the defunct "gay" 3-D PWC, it will be an uphill battle to continue selling them.

Richard

 

[NancysToy]

I started a thread about what happened during a ride on my Spyder elsewhere on this forum. Briefly....it developed a mind of it's own and kept on wanting to jump lanes into the oncoming traffic. Computer malfunction ? From the posts received, it seems like I'm not the only one who experienced strange and dangerous Spyder behavior. I know the dealer (some 80 miles distant) will be clueless and I'm not ready to tempt suicide yet, so the Spyder stays locked in the garage. I just purchased a new Suzuki GSX650F sport bike, so I don't miss using the Spyder. The
Suzuki has quiet brakes, doesn't "moan" at slow speeds, runs and shifts smoother than any bike I ever owned. For the cost of a problem infected Spyder I could purchase 2 GSX's and have 2 grand left over !!:spyder:

I can certainly understand your frustration and disappointment. I do think you should give the dealer a chance to fix the problem, in any case. To say they "will be clueless" certainly doesn't give them an actual chance to rectify what is apparently an isolated situation. Many of us have ridden thousands of miles on our Spyders without seriouos problems. In the end, having a broken Spyder in your garage does nobody any good. BRP can't learn it has a safety problem, and you are wasting the money that could be spent on two and a half GSXers or make a downpayment on a Harley-Lehmen trike. If the Spyder is unsafe, see if the dealer will come and get it. Somehow it can make the 80 miles to the dealer, and not be stuck taking up your garage space. I don't blame you for being skittish, or not loving the Spyder after your experience, it might scare me away, too. Just get it fixed and back on the road, somewhere, somehow, with someone. Addressing the problem helps us all in the end.
-Scotty

 

[ataDude]

I agree whole-heartedly. Get in in, diagnosed, reported and fixed. You're not doing any of us... including yourself... any favors just sitting here b**t**ng about it. If there is a problem, BRP definitely needs to know about it.

Pardon my frank comments. Now, back to the mods.

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I can certainly understand your frustration and disappointment. I do think you should give the dealer a chance to fix the problem, in any case. To say they "will be clueless" certainly doesn't give them an actual chance to rectify what is apparently an isolated situation. Many of us have ridden thousands of miles on our Spyders without seriouos problems. In the end, having a broken Spyder in your garage does nobody any good. BRP can't learn it has a safety problem, and you are wasting the money that could be spent on two and a half GSXers or make a downpayment on a Harley-Lehmen trike. If the Spyder is unsafe, see if the dealer will come and get it. Somehow it can make the 80 miles to the dealer, and not be stuck taking up your garage space. I don't blame you for being skittish, or not loving the Spyder after your experience, it might scare me away, too. Just get it fixed and back on the road, somewhere, somehow, with someone. Addressing the problem helps us all in the end.
-Scotty

 

[bjt]

Way2fast, I agree with Scotty's and ATAdude's advice. I have about 12,000 miles on my Spyder including three 1,000 mile + trips and have ridden it daily (for the most part) for the past 7 months. I haven't had any really bad issues with my Spyder. Certainly nothing to make me feel its unsafe or untrustworthy, quite the opposite in my opinion. At least get your dealer to pick it up and have it sit in their garage while they figure out what is wrong with your Spyder.

 

[Magic Man]

One thing I think everyone seems to miss with the Spyder is, it's not just a "first year" machine here.

Unlike all the other companies BRP jumpped in to the "deep end of the pool" here 100% bringing the Spyder to market. None of other companies had the "grapes" to do it! :clap:

Not only is it going to have some "first year growing pains" that new models have. But, this is a totally new concept in production machines never tried by anyone in mass production before.

The whole idea of this layout for consumer mass production has never been tried before by anyone.

So, when you have as many new ideas such as VSS, Power Steering, ABS, CAN-BUS all brought into one new machine concept all at one time, sure you are going to have more growing pains than just a new model of a 2 wheeled bike does. A bike that is only slightly "new" compaired to the uncharted waters the Spyder is swimming in.

I hate warranty down time as much as the next guy! But for a "first year concept machine" I don't think the problems this bike has are anywhere near problems some other "regular bikes" have had over the years.

Just ask all the 1999 and 2000 HD Twin Cam owners who had their motors go south because of the bad cam bearings how they feel about down time. Or the 2008 SE 110 motors that went south because of bad oil pumps right out of the box? Talk about down time and having your new bike tore apart. :yikes:

Bottom line is, if it's made by people some place along the way something will be overlooked, or mistakes will be made. But I don't think with almost 10,000 units made this year anything I have seen on the Spyder so far makes it a "problem" machine by any measure.

My 2 cents. :thumbup:

MM

 

[effgjamis]

Some people here don't seem interested in other 3 wheeled vehicles. Jealousy perhaps? I for one, enjoy seeing what the competition has come up with. I may own a Spyder but I am certainly NOT a Spyder lover. First year vehicle or not, there is no valid reason for releasing a product that has as many issues as the Spyder. BRP tested this contraption for years before introduction....didn't they learn anything ?

As for the TT-Busa, it was just sold. I was already planning on having it replace the Spyder in my garage. I may have to custom order one.

Richard

I gonna cry......