Touring pants

[cptjam]

To the OP, I wear Aerostich AD1 pants and spandex underneath. Eliminates rain gear, is armored, and goretex. Breathes. Good stuff. Joe

 

[strykerAKAmack]

Gone from 2 wheels to 3
and its still ATGATT .
Have had my Original Aerostitch Roadcrafter suit for 25 plus years its never let me down .
Well worth it . getting the new Transit 3 leathers from them , $200 off presale going on now . ends soon .
Buy once cry once .

 

[UtahPete]

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Pete,
Are you a safety professional? I am.
Are you an MSF Instructor? I am.
Are you a 3 Wheel instructor? I am.
Everyone can have an opinion. You choose to do whatever you wish.
MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, BACKED UP BY FACTS, RESEARCH, DATA, and EDUCATION IS ATGATT!
ALL THE GEAR, ALL THE TIME. PERIOD.
Please don’t advise people based on your imagination. Take a class. Hard to argue with facts.

Joe, I respect your knowledge and expertise on a number of topics Spyder related. I don't claim any expertise in those areas and enjoy learning from you and others when possible.

I don't advise anyone to do what I do, but I have ideas and opinions based on my experience and reasoning and whatever data (facts) I can lay my hands on and I freely share that with others. Isn't that what the forum is about?

 

[cptjam]

It's a lot simpler once you ditch the idea you need to dress for the 'slide'.

Here. You are no less vulnerable on a Spyder; no air bags, crumple zones, restraints. We agree on helmets. Dress for the crash. If you never need it, great! Better to have and not need.....

 

[Malathion]

Super pleased with my Carlsbad gear. They have a cut that give you ease of movement for aggressive spyder riding. I prefer to wear my Carlsbad pants to wearing jeans, they are cooler and give better heat protection from the engine. The jacket is not as spyder friendly, the slashed arm vents only work well when standing, leaving the cuffs open gives great access for air and the odd bug. Completely zipped up the collar can be annoying, collar tabs would have been nice. The material in the chest and thigh area is great for keeping your core cool, that being said you must plan for cooler whether.

 

[Wmoater]

Super pleased with my Carlsbad gear. They have a cut that give you ease of movement for aggressive spyder riding. I prefer to wear my Carlsbad pants to wearing jeans, they are cooler and give better heat protection from the engine......

Malathion what do your wear under your Carlsbad pants? If you prefer them over jeans I assume you’re not wearing jeans under?

 

[JimH]

Hi I have a pair of Sedici Alexi Waterproof Pants (https://www.cyclegear.com/gear/sedici-alexi-pants) that I really like. They have two removal liners (one waterproof and one for cold weather). I remove both liners for the summer and like to ride for long rides, I do not wear for shorter rides. The waterproof liner can be hot in the summer, but it keeps you dry. They are nice a warm in the winter with the liners in, I drove as low as 20 degrees F and was fine. They have knee pads but no hip pads.

On long rides I like having them on. In the summer I can wear them over shorts and have nice airflow for longer rides.

Good luck.

 

[cruisinTX]

We wear mesh textile pants with removeable armor over padded bicycle shorts with white boxers under those. Always have two pair of the bike shorts so we can rinse one pair out and let it dry overnight & next day in hotel room while wearing the clean pair. In addition, we take one set of "nice" clothes like jeans & a sport shirt in case we decide to go someplace where something other than bike shorts and T-shirts might be more appropriate. But, those are usually only when we are within walking distance of that "place" what-ever it happens to be. Since we are ATGATT when riding, it is rare that we ever use the jeans and sport shirt. Our mesh pants have both a rain liner and quilted liner that can be used together when needed. As for jackets, we do pretty much as you, mesh with liner and large raincoat that will fit over the top.

As for gear or no gear, it's an individual choice and since you can still have a get-off even with three wheels where road rash is a very painful outcome, we will always wear full gear.

 

[Big F]

Utah Pete - you just said my thought????? we have THREE WHEELERS and they don't tip very easy at all.. If we get hit by 4 wheels the pants are not going to help the situation.
BIG F

 

[lstayner]

Utah Pete - you just said my thought????? we have THREE WHEELERS and they don't tip very easy at all.. If we get hit by 4 wheels the pants are not going to help the situation.
BIG F

Sounds to me you like two have a false sense of security. I agree that it doesn't matter what gear you have on when a vehicle hits you hard enough on two wheels or three. What happens when a vehicle hits you just hard enough to send you flying off the bike? Those shorts and sandals you are wearing won't give you much protection on the pavement. I prefer to err on the side of caution than to spend my time in a hospital getting skin grafts and fighting infection.

Might as well not wear a helmet while you are at it.

 

[UtahPete]

Sounds to me you like two have a false sense of security. I agree that it doesn't matter what gear you have on when a vehicle hits you hard enough on two wheels or three. What happens when a vehicle hits you just hard enough to send you flying off the bike? Those shorts and sandals you are wearing won't give you much protection on the pavement. I prefer to err on the side of caution than to spend my time in a hospital getting skin grafts and fighting infection.

Might as well not wear a helmet while you are at it.

It's all conjecture, not fact.

 

[ARtraveler]

Varying opinions are what the forum is about. Keeping them under control can be an issue. So far, mostly in control.

 

[lstayner]

Now, that is being judgmental I think. It's all conjecture, not fact.

Nope. That is being sarcastic. I am an ATGATT rider but don't care if you ride in a Speedo.

 

[cruisinTX]

Nope. That is being sarcastic. I am an ATGATT rider but don't care if you ride in a Speedo.

Now there's an image that may require some serious eye bleach.

 

[WisconsinDavid]

Always gear up when I ride... so I don't have to wonder "what if?", had I been dressed for success in the event of a mishap. Cortech textile pants with armor... mesh in summertime (with rain barrier) and non-mesh (with rain barrier) for cooler seasons, so I don't have to re-gear for rain. I wear a Tourmaster textile jacket and gloves ... and always a helmet. One accident on a bike with a broken knee and ankle, but no road rash or head injury, confirmed the prudence of gearing well for non-caged adventures.

 

[cptjam]

Nope, facts. Crash data, analysis, studies. Fatalities on a Spyder are blessedly rare, but crashes are not. Bottom line, ATGATT!

 

[johnsimion]

It's a lot simpler once you ditch the idea you need to dress for the 'slide'.

Armor doesn't just protect from the slide. As I see it, getting thrown off is the most likely cause of injury on a Spyder. If I get thrown off, I want knee armor in case I land on my knees. Ditto for head, shoulders, arms, and back. You're spreading out the impact so the chance of broken bones is much less. I don't trust other drivers and I myself have been known to make a driving mistake or two in my life. I'd like to be able to walk away from an accident and it's worth it to me to have the best protection I can get - and hi-viz to give me even a 1% less chance of even getting in an accident. It's costly, it's not stylish, and it's inconvenient, but not nearly as costly and inconvenient as a hospital or funeral and way more stylish.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Pete, this is what I think (and live by);
Armored clothing is designed to protect in a slide ... which is much more likely to happen with a 2-wheeler than a Spyder. In all the time I've been on this forum I've not heard of one incident where someone came off their Spyder in a true 'slide' situation (sliding down the asphalt ripping off skin). A slide typically happens when the rider 'lays their bike down' deliberately to avoid a collision (never a good idea), or loses control in a slip 'n slide or high-speed evasion situation and they go down on the asphalt at speed; this doesn't happen with the Spyder as long as they stay with the bike.

The very few incidents reported with a rider being injured while riding a Spyder have been; a) collisions with wildlife or b) hydroplaning. In the first situation, the rider may be injured from the large animal coming through the windshield (and may or may not get knocked off the bike); I don't think armored clothing would help much either way. With hydroplaning resulting in a spin, the rider may be thrown from the Spyder and armored gear may or may not protect joints but since it's wet out, the slide itself isn't likely to result in abrasion injuries.

The most recent reported incident, which resulted in fatal injuries sadly, the rider wasn't wearing a helmet. I always wear a helmet because brain injuries are typically non-survivable, but broken bones and abrasion are.

With this type of thinking Pete, you may as well wear shorts and flip flops. After all the broken bones and abrasions will heal!:roflblack: Talk to someone that has been through that healing process to hear what fun it was. I agree you will never lay a Spyder down, but yo may come off of it, and I would rather land on armor than my unprotected skin. Lost a good friend on a Spyder when he was rear ended and thrown from his Spyder. He dressed like you!

 

[Wmoater]

I respect everyone’s opinion and suggestions, that is why I asked in the first place. I didn’t mean to start a trash “talk” thread. I was simply asking how many people wear shorts under their touring pants? Is it better to have 2 pair of (Regular Levi) jeans or one pair of jeans and riding pants to save space? Any opinion on wearing either the KLIM latitude or Carlsbad pants was also asked. Consensus is wear armor (probably Latitude for me) and some do wear jeans, riding shorts and riding underwear under their riding pants. I was just trying to do a bit of research for my wife and I’s behalf and gain knowledge from others that may have experience in this question.

 

[lstayner]

I respect everyone’s opinion and suggestions, that is why I asked in the first place. I didn’t mean to start a trash “talk” thread. I was simply asking how many people wear shorts under their touring pants? Is it better to have 2 pair of (Regular Levi) jeans or one pair of jeans and riding pants to save space? Any opinion on wearing either the KLIM latitude or Carlsbad pants was also asked. Consensus is wear armor (probably Latitude for me) and some do wear jeans, riding shorts and riding underwear under their riding pants. I was just trying to do a bit of research for my wife and I’s behalf and gain knowledge from others that may have experience in this question.

I wear just underwear under my riding pants. Motoport brand custom fit pants. My wife does the same. I have a set of Olympia Air Glide pants that I do the same in. I also have a set of Bohn Armour pants that I can wear under jeans. They are quite comfortable and offer me the protection I want. I wear a heavy pair of Duluth Trading jeans over them .