VSS - Pillon Switch?

[groundeffect]

Hey there.

Just reading through the fault codes in the owners manual and found something I have a question on.


On this page, second from the bottom, you see the VSS fault codes:

In the second scenario for VSS on it reads "SEAT SWITCH DEFECTIVE", then "Defective pillion rider seat switch", then "Check fuse…".


My Question:

Interesting… so, is there a switch under the seat, senescing if a rider is on the back?

If this is the case, and it relates to VSS, I guess the switch is used to tell the VSS system to assist in a different way verse when just operating with the rider only?



Thank you.
Cheers.

 

[wyliec]

Hey there.

Just reading through the fault codes in the owners manual and found something I have a question on.


On this page, second from the bottom, you see the VSS fault codes:

In the second scenario for VSS on it reads "SEAT SWITCH DEFECTIVE", then "Defective pillion rider seat switch", then "Check fuse…".


My Question:

Interesting… so, is there a switch under the seat, senescing if a rider is on the back?

If this is the case, and it relates to VSS, I guess the switch is used to tell the VSS system to assist in a different way verse when just operating with the rider only?



Thank you.
Cheers.

Yes

 

[NancysToy]

The pillion switch senses a passenger, and adjusts the VSS response accordingly. None of us are privy to the programming, so we don't know exactly what it does as far as the traction control, and possibly the stability control are concerned. Haven't known any pillion switches to fail, but the Spyder will protest if the switch is unhooked.

 

[groundeffect]

The pillion switch senses a passenger, and adjusts the VSS response accordingly. None of us are privy to the programming, so we don't know exactly what it does as far as the traction control, and possibly the stability control are concerned. Haven't known any pillion switches to fail, but the Spyder will protest if the switch is unhooked.

wyliec/Scotty - thank you guys!


WOW, that is pretty impressive!


Thanks for the reply.
Cheers.

 

[wukka]

The pillion switch senses a passenger, and adjusts the VSS response accordingly. None of us are privy to the programming, so we don't know exactly what it does as far as the traction control, and possibly the stability control are concerned. Haven't known any pillion switches to fail, but the Spyder will protest if the switch is unhooked.

It's a simple pressure-activated switch. Seems like it could be bypassed with a toggle switch on the console...

 

[RShrimp]

It's not normally that simple with Canbus. Most of the sensors with have a high and low resistence value. (Like 100 ohms and 1000 ohms) Not just open or closed. Normally both open and closed will create a fault condition.

To bypass a sensor you normally need to install a resistor that makes the system happy.

 

[ArmyJoe]

To bypass a sensor you normally need to install a resistor that makes the system happy.

Does the sensor play well with aftermarket seats?

 

[sabunim5]

Does the sensor play well with aftermarket seats?

It was moved from my stock seat to my Corbin rear seat. Can't speak for other brands. I do know the Spyder will not start without it. :yikes: My assumption is that it is compatible with all aftermarket seats.
Here is a link to an older thread with some more info.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16026&highlight=start

 

[docdoru]

It's not normally that simple with Canbus. Most of the sensors with have a high and low resistence value. (Like 100 ohms and 1000 ohms) Not just open or closed. Normally both open and closed will create a fault condition. To bypass a sensor you normally need to install a resistor that makes the system happy.

:agree: easy done with this:

 

[RShrimp]

33 ohms does it?
10 watt'er might be a bit overkill.... 1/4 watt should be plenty, but yes, thats how canbus is fooled. Been working on fooling the Cummins Canbus for some time.

 

[docdoru]

Been working on fooling the Cummins Canbus for some time.

You can use it also for McCruise (Limp Mode in combination with L.E.D. tail lights). :shemademe_smilie: :thumbup: