Converting 6 pole WAGS trailer to 4 pole square Spyder

[Blue3]

Any guidance anyone can give about converting a 6 pole WAGS trailer to a 4 pole square Spyder will be greatly appreciated...

 

[billybovine]

Any guidance anyone can give about converting a 6 pole WAGS trailer to a 4 pole square Spyder will be greatly appreciated...

Get a wiring diagram from the trailer manufacturer would be a good first step.

 

[Blue3]

Used trailer

What does each wire on the Spyder 4 square connector handle?

 

[billybovine]

White wire is ground.
Brown is taillights.
Yellow is left turn and brake.
Green is right turn and brake.

 

[Blue3]

trailer wiring

Picking up trailer far from home. It has the amber turn signal lights. Could I take those wires to the respective 4-square and use them as both turn and brake lights and the red as only tail lights? I could change the lens to red which seems easier than re-wiring the trailer to separate the existing brake lights into turn/brake.

Thanks for all the help.

 

[Bfromla]

Picking up trailer far from home. It has the amber turn signal lights. Could I take those wires to the respective 4-square and use them as both turn and brake lights and the red as only tail lights? I could change the lens to red which seems easier than re-wiring the trailer to separate the existing brake lights into turn/brake.

Thanks for all the help.

If you are in a time crunch maybe & only if you had informed escort to help :lecturef_smilie:
Just you & general traffic :yikes: No way, not me bud! I'd find another way to transport it!
Inside a truck bed or another trailer with good lighting Getting it home & getting the lights right is better than being rear-ended from crazy light issues.

 

[ChicoFowler]

Any guidance anyone can give will be greatly appreciated

Check out Hopkins 47975 - 4 pin square. I had to connect a 4 pin round to my bike. Bought a standard 4 pin round and this Hopkins connect and made up a short connect between the Spyder and the trailer.

 

[billybovine]

Picking up trailer far from home. It has the amber turn signal lights. Could I take those wires to the respective 4-square and use them as both turn and brake lights and the red as only tail lights? I could change the lens to red which seems easier than re-wiring the trailer to separate the existing brake lights into turn/brake.

Thanks for all the help.

The trailer has amber turn signals. That means it is not a 4 wire system like the Spyder. But we still don't know if the trailer is actually a 6 wire or 5 wire system. Highly likely it's 5 wire. Then you need an electronic converter and build an adapter using that. Here is an example of one I found when I did a google search. https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Curt/C56196.html It separates the combined right and left brake/turn into right turn, left turn and brake.

 

[Blue3]

Used trailer

The trailer has amber turn signals. That means it is not a 4 wire system like the Spyder. But we still don't know if the trailer is actually a 6 wire or 5 wire system. Highly likely it's 5 wire. Then you need an electronic converter and build an adapter using that. Here is an example of one I found when I did a google search. https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Curt/C56196.html It separates the combined right and left brake/turn into right turn, left turn and brake.

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Thank you. This appears to be the solution. One of the reviews was for a Spyder. Some reviews mentioned a diode, is this necessary? Thank you again.

 

[billybovine]

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Thank you. This appears to be the solution. One of the reviews was for a Spyder. Some reviews mentioned a diode, is this necessary? Thank you again.

There should be no need for any diodes on a trailer. Diodes would only be needed if your where towing a car.

 

[Blue3]

There should be no need for any diodes on a trailer. Diodes would only be needed if your where towing a car.

Thank you so much. I got the Curt magic box and all works well. I am sure I would have been in deep do do without your help.

 

[dkaltmayer]

I know this thread is almost 8 years old, but I just purchased a used Escapade Trailer with the 6 pole square plug, no brakes on the trailer but it has a cargo light in the trailer. I appreciate reading through this as I think the Curt box is the way to go to separate the signals for left, right, and brake. Thanks for the diode explanation as well.
My question is, does the 5 wire Spyder wiring harness carry 12v so I can keep the light, or is it a brake power connection?

 

[Mikey]

I know this thread is almost 8 years old, but I just purchased a used Escapade Trailer with the 6 pole square plug, no brakes on the trailer but it has a cargo light in the trailer. I appreciate reading through this as I think the Curt box is the way to go to separate the signals for left, right, and brake. Thanks for the diode explanation as well.
My question is, does the 5 wire Spyder wiring harness carry 12v so I can keep the light, or is it a brake power connection?

I would say pull out the meter and see what you've got going there, write it down on a piece of paper and wire it up to the trailer, you may need a extra wire for the trailer light, but I don't know how long I would run that light without the motor running to keep a full charge on it! You may need to put a solar charger and a battery somewhere in the trailer to run on its own as an independent power source.