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Do you think we'll see Spyders with DCT soon?

DCT adds size, weight, cost and complexity. But is definitely superior, in many ways, to a CVT transmission. Especially in the reliability and maintenance categories. Had one in my VW. Very smooth. People asked me if it was CVT driven because you couldn't tell when it shifted. Expensive to repair if they do go bad though.
 
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DCT adds size, weight, cost and complexity. But is definitely superior, in many ways, to a CVT transmission. Especially in the reliability and maintenance categories. Had one in my VW. Very smooth. People asked me if it was CVT driven because you couldn't tell when it shifted. Expensive to repair if they do go back though.

:thumbup: .... Last year I bought a used car (Nissan Versa Note) I had the opportunity to get one with a CVT trans. It sounded appealing, so I did some research in cars that had them .... after reading a number of reviews I decided there were NO plusses in getting one and MANY negatives .... my Versa has a manual and I love it .... Mike :thumbup:
 
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:thumbup: .... Last year I bought a used car (Nissan Versa Note) I had the opportunity to get one with a CVT trans. It sounded appealing, so I did some research in cars that had them .... after reading a number of reviews I decided there were NO plusses in getting one and MANY negatives .... my Versa has a manual and I love it .... Mike :thumbup:


The heavier the vehicle and the more HP, the worse the idea of CVT is. You did the right thing.
 
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I reckon it's a 'horses for courses' thing... :dontknow:

I've been lucky enough to drive a few pretty sporty (some of them very expensive!) cars with DCT's; and I've even owned & driven a (slightly modified :p ) Hyundai Kona 1.6TT (lotsa HP, but still reasonably lightweight! ;) ) for over 100,000 kms without any issues, and they can be really great to drive and reliable too! :ohyea:

But as Ron mentioned, it seems that the heavier the cars are teamed with higher HP, and the DCT's can very quickly become problematic - at least in cars & seemingly in motorcycles/trikes too. :rolleyes:

HOWEVER, at least here in Oz, there are a growing number of heavy haulage vehicles out there that are using DCT's or variants thereof that are managing very well, many of them having now racked up more than 6 figures of miles without concern or even any excessive/abnormal maintenance - and they're pretty heavy, haul heavy loads, and have lots of HP too!! Given that I might only be talking to those who like them, but going by what I hear & see from daily users, owners, and maintainers, I might even hazard a guess that the heavy DCT units are more widely respected amongst the heavy haulage fraternity than traditional auto's for their Big Rigs... :dontknow:

And then there's all the racing machines that are going that way too - if they aren't hybrid electric things, it seems a fair number of some racing machines are opting to use DCT's or variants thereof - there's apparently not too many traditional manual gearboxes or auto's in the big money end of some racing marques anymore! So maybe we will see DCT technology improve and gradually filter down into more mainstream/daily use vehicles... ;)
 
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OFF TOPIC.

Peter, are you confusing AMT with DCT? Sure, the newer big Volvos have a second clutch pack on their AMT, to speedup gear changes but l don't believe it's regarded as a DCT. What say you?
 
OFF TOPIC.

Peter, are you confusing AMT with DCT? Sure, the newer big Volvos have a second clutch pack on their AMT, to speedup gear changes but l don't believe it's regarded as a DCT. What say you?

Nope, I'm pretty sure that I'm not confusing them, altho there certainly are Automated Manual Transmissions as well, very much like the SE's in our Spyders. ;)

True DCT's & their variants are available in trucks (light, medium, & heavy haulage) and IIRC, have been since the mid 20-teens, at least here in Oz; altho I do think they were released during the early 20-teens in Europe. I reckon Volvo's DCT was first released in 2014. Check out this link for a bit more info:

https://www.trucksales.com.au/edito...shift-dual-clutch-transmission-review-117274/

But again IIRC, just selecting a few examples amongst all the others, there's an increasingly used Cummins/Eaton DCT outfit; there've been Fuso's with DCT's available since the early 20-teens; and there's even an Eaton Medium-Duty Truck and Bus range now too. :thumbup:
 
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CVT on the Spyder, I suppose BRP could do that, would I buy first edition? No way! In addition to the increased complexity, weight, cost, and waiting until the dealer could get parts and and time to fix a problem, oh well, you get my drift. I'm sort of old school and like my 2020 RTL the way it is. If it ain't broke.......
 
Will the riding public be willing to pay more for an already expensive machine just to keep from moving their left thumb?
 
Last year we bought a 2016 Hundai Tucson with DCT and their little turbo charged 4 cyl. Runs and operates great. Does shudder on takeoff though where my Spyder does not.
 
I have a DCT on my Honda NC750X and it works great. It was designed to maximize fuel economy. I get 66 mpg off highway. On the interstate fuel mileage drops to 55 mpg at 70+ mph with one Clydesdale sized rider and full camping gear. The DCT has been absolutely reliable. I doubt that the same Goldwing tranny is used on a Civic or Accord. It may be the same technology however.
 
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