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Ethanol and Power
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dave01
New member
Lol. 460hp all day with 624 max on the dyno . I wimped out at 217 mph but she had a lot more in her
Plus I got her down to 398 lbs with all carbon body and rims
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Plus I got her down to 398 lbs with all carbon body and rims
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BMF_RACING
New member
The only down fall to going e85 is the fuel system requirements nearly double (injectors and fuel pump) ... also keep in mind stoichiometric is 14.7 with Gas and only 9.7 ish with e85, so remember that when tuning with the WB. :thumbup:
mxz600
Free Thinking Member
Phase separation with ethanol gas.
I mentioned this in another post about ethanol gas.
A buddy of mine had major engine failure from gas that had suffered from phase separation. After filling up at the station he only made it a couple of miles before the problems started.
Below is a link on phase separation and other helpful advise.
http://fuelschool.blogspot.com/2009/02/phase-separation-in-ethanol-blended.html
I mentioned this in another post about ethanol gas.
A buddy of mine had major engine failure from gas that had suffered from phase separation. After filling up at the station he only made it a couple of miles before the problems started.
Below is a link on phase separation and other helpful advise.
http://fuelschool.blogspot.com/2009/02/phase-separation-in-ethanol-blended.html
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Corn ethanol is a a joke...better to use switch grass or cane sugar if you're gonna do it right...
Of course, this gov't is clueless...as others have mentioned, you end up paying more in the long run with the crappy ethanol...oh, and burning ethanol is fine for the environment? Who are they kidding? If you burn a carbon product, you're burning a carbon product!
Of course, this gov't is clueless...as others have mentioned, you end up paying more in the long run with the crappy ethanol...oh, and burning ethanol is fine for the environment? Who are they kidding? If you burn a carbon product, you're burning a carbon product!
Firefly
Active member
Um-- not sure what ya mean by 'this' government -- but the push for and use of ethanol has been going on during various administrations....but many are quick to blame everything on the current one for some reason....
Because when they started out they had the legislative branch locked up and instead of repealing the ethanol standards they chose the healthcare fiasco instead. Is that hard to understand? Like Bush says do you miss me now? I sure do and I won't miss these misguided liberals a bit! Bill
ThreeWheels
Active member
Hey I don't see CT on that list for gas. I guess ill have to start looking around for my :spyder:
There's NOTHING in the area at all. Not NJ, not MA.
MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
Very true, but the most recent "edict" was an "administrative one" and is increasing ethanol from 10% to 15% in our gas. This was done just recently under the PRESENT administration.
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Firefly
Active member
Everything I've read online states that a new blend *may* be released for NEWER vehicles only-- called E15 -- and it will be entirely your option whether to use it or not. Our current gas with a blend up to 10% isn't going away anytime soon.
SpyderWolf
New member
I am lucky enough to have a few stations left in my area that sell Ethanol free fuel. I like to fill my Spyder with it whenever I can, and I definitely see better mileage on a tank than when I put the Ethanol in.
On the other side of the coin, my Nissan Titan is a Flex Fuel vehicle and my wife just put E85 in it the other day for $2.90 a gallon. Regular is currently $3.50 a gallon here. The truck computer currently shows it getting an average 16 mpg on the E85, so I cannot complain about that.
I do agree it is totally ridiculous to be using corn to produce Ethanol at an energy return rate of 1:1 when sugar cane gives you a return of 8:1. I am not a farmer, but would think we should be able to grow sugar cane in this country as well. :dontknow:
Besides the StarTron additive, there is also one called ValveTech, or something similar, that is made for marine engines. 1 bottle costs $12 but is good for 120 gallons, so it would only take a capful every now and then to do the trick. I have heard good reports on it so far. You may have to go to a boating store to find it. They say your engine will sputter a little at first, but then completely smooth out and run great.
On the other side of the coin, my Nissan Titan is a Flex Fuel vehicle and my wife just put E85 in it the other day for $2.90 a gallon. Regular is currently $3.50 a gallon here. The truck computer currently shows it getting an average 16 mpg on the E85, so I cannot complain about that.
I do agree it is totally ridiculous to be using corn to produce Ethanol at an energy return rate of 1:1 when sugar cane gives you a return of 8:1. I am not a farmer, but would think we should be able to grow sugar cane in this country as well. :dontknow:
Besides the StarTron additive, there is also one called ValveTech, or something similar, that is made for marine engines. 1 bottle costs $12 but is good for 120 gallons, so it would only take a capful every now and then to do the trick. I have heard good reports on it so far. You may have to go to a boating store to find it. They say your engine will sputter a little at first, but then completely smooth out and run great.
Marker
Active member
It may feel like there is no benefit to running ethanol fuels, e85, e95, & so on for some people but thats not true for everyone. Because I build and tune many forced induction race cars and fast street cars I have had the chance to experiment with e85 a bit. Yes there is a loss in MPG when using E fuels, but there is a small nitch of the market where it does appeal to. For those with with turbo/supercharged engines, e85 is very appealing. Currently e85 is around $2.80/gal & the c16 (116 octane leaded fuel) race fuel is $12/gal. For us turbo car guys, we can achieve the same levels of HP with e85 as we can the c16, pay less and burn cleaner. I understand the both sides, just wanted to say there is some benefits to different groups.
Methanol is a whole other story all together (even better for HP).
Just my $0.02.
Thanks :thumbup:, I always like to hear both sides. This year NASCAR boys are using ethanol in the Sunoco race fuel. I don't know why my guess ia sponsorship money. Just my $.02 worth
Littlebadwolf
New member
Bought a can of octane booster today after reading the post on the ethanol here...gonna give it a test tomorrow...Instructions claim a boost of 2.5 octane with the addition of 1 ounce of it to 1 gallon of gas.. Will post results.
SpyderWolf
New member
I remember when I bought my GSX-R when they were first made street legal in 1986. It required the highest grade gasoline you could get, and then the owners manual recommended buying Octane Boost 108+ and adding a couple ounces of it to each tank. Things sure have changed in 25 years, or they may be starting to come around again.
