MURPHYBROWN'S Trailer

[Magdave]

Sure good to hear that progress is being made afa the fires! Rained real good over here on the wet side. Hope some of it got over the mountains.

Afa your trailer woas, thank you to PMK for posting that drawing. I had no idea those trailers were independent suspension. The 'Mothership' needs to just set you up with a new one. I think we all agree on that. But it's highly unlikely, I suspect. They'd rather try to fix it and wear you down until you just live with it (or dump it).

A couple thoughts from the peanut gallery. That independent suspension, if it's not 'square', could have good alignment numbers unloaded but go way out of spec with a load in it. Also, sounds like their tow measurement was off of the hubs? How big are the hubs!?! small right? Tow on your car/truck might be about 1/8" - 1/4" max. That's at the outside of the wheel. (or is it outside the tires?) Anyway, not sure I can describe this visually, but I'll try.

Picture the trailer on stands with the tires off. Attached to each hub face is a straight edge. Measure from straight edge to straight edge, once just in front of the hub and once just behind it. Subtract one from the other and you get a toe value. Maybe 1.5mm
So let's picture those straight edges being 6 foot long! Now measure between each; once 2 feet in front of the hub and once 2' behind the hub. NOW WHAT'S YOUR TOE?!? Something huge!

If they are measuring just in front of and just behind the hub, that number had better be reeeeeally small! (I would think)

Trailer tires wearing out that fast, as long as they are not dragging because of bad bearing and such, MUST be scrubbing by fighting each other. Toe'd in or toe'd out

A fun test we used to do with our race cars is to lay a piece of paper in front of each tire. (on the smooth shop floor) Mark the papers against the floor and then run them over. The papers will twist based on the alignment. It's not at all scientific but the more the papers twist, the more the toe

Finally, I'll add that someone who really knows tires (like at my local Les Schwabs) can get a pretty good idea of the cause of the wear just by what the tires looks like. Toe, caster, camber, bent rim, low air pressure, high pressure, ect. All wear the tires differently.

Of course, figuring this out is NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY! I hope you get satisfaction :thumbup:

 

[jaherbst]

The spring thing is interesting. I'm not sure if the shocks on Karyl's trailer are adjustable, they were on the older ones, but if one side was set to 5 and the other side set to 1 maybe that could screw things up? I would hope that the techs checked that out.

Ann, I think you might have something here. If the suspension is rebounding differently due to unequal settings this could cause extreme tire wear. By all means check this out Karyl. This could be a strong possibility.

Jack

 

[jaherbst]

The spring thing is interesting. I'm not sure if the shocks on Karyl's trailer are adjustable, they were on the older ones, but if one side was set to 5 and the other side set to 1 maybe that could screw things up? I would hope that the techs checked that out.

Ann, I think you might have something here. If the suspension is rebounding differently due to unequal settings this could cause extreme tire wear. By all means check this out Karyl. This could be a strong possibility. Sometimes it the simple things we miss.

Jack

 

[murphybrown]

Latest info

Good Morning All:
OK just want all you fine folks to know that I have created a list of your possible "fixes/suggestions" and forwarded to Moses Lake, WA dealership. They are very willing to see if they can deal with my trailer which will definitely make me :yes::thumbup:. But due to their busy schedule and my scheduled trip, cannot get into them until July 28. Folks I am leaving on 3000+ trip on August 10 AND I am pulling that trailer. Figure this trip will do 1 of 2 things. Prove that the 1.5mm toe-in is OK (as stated by Carlo/BRP representative) or that BRP is going to be buying and mounting tire set #5 while I am on the trip AND accepting that 1.5 mm toe in is not "working". I reallllly am voting for BRP assessment being spot on.
So I will post here only after August 10 AND if BRP is right or wrong in their diagnosis!!!!.
Everyone have a great weekend...:clap:

 

[lwrydr]

Travel

Where you headed on your 3k trip? I probably will be on the road coming back from the Redwoods and maybe our paths will cross.

 

[murphybrown]

tentative route

Where you headed on your 3k trip? I probably will be on the road coming back from the Redwoods and maybe our paths will cross.

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First stop Woodland, WA to visit a 93 yr old friend. Then head toward Pacific Ocean then south along coast line....destination August 14 to connect with friend in Windsor, CA...then not sure after that...know that Mt Shasta will be visited on return north. What is your route? Have a great time at SIRW event. Tell Ann and Joe "hi" for me...:clap:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I REALLY THINK THIS IS TRUE

Good kAll:
OK just want all you fine folks to know that I have created a list of your possible "fixes/suggestions" and forwarded to Moses Lake, WA dealership. They are very willing to see if they can deal with my trailer which will definitely make me :yes::thumbup:. But due to their busy schedule and my scheduled trip, cannot get into them until July 28. Folks I am leaving on 3000+ trip on August 10 AND I am pulling that trailer. Figure this trip will do 1 of 2 things. Prove that the 1.5mm toe-in is OK (as stated by Carlo/BRP representative) or that BRP is going to be buying and mounting tire set #5 while I am on the trip AND accepting that 1.5 mm toe in is not "working". I reallllly am voting for BRP assessment being spot on.
So I will post here only after August 10 AND if BRP is right or wrong in their diagnosis!!!!.
Everyone have a great weekend...:clap:

....Karyl, since BRP has a "sweet-heart deal " with KENDA they get all their tires for ' FREE ' . So I don't think they are worried about providing you with free tires forever. Fixing that trailer is going to cost them money......This doesn't look good ....But I wish you the best......and Good Luck with the Trip.................Mike :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

A couple thoughts from the peanut gallery. That independent suspension, if it's not 'square', could have good alignment numbers unloaded but go way out of spec with a load in it. .

:agree: If that leading arm setup isn't "plumb"... :yikes:

 

[Questions]

BRP arrogance

I can't believe that BRP could think that they would never build a "dud".
while I am very happy with my 2014 RT-S and I think it is very well built machine, I am very disappointed with the way they are handling this trailer. They should take her unit back and give her a new one. They will then have all the time needed to find the problem.