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Opinion

Jeriatric

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Warranty - and your dealers relationship with you and BRP/Can Am.

There are many things to consider when a dealer recommends you should or should not do something. How long have they been in the game. Experience and knowledge counts for a lot. How well do you think they understand the limits of BRP's warranty. How willing are they to put their franchise at potential risk to service and keep their customer(s) happy. Especially, if they know something they seemingly endorse or do for you could create a problem for them or for you. The list of potential risk laden decisions they are confronted with is long. If you have ever owned or run a business you'll understand this, no doubt. Being a good dealer is not always easy when you're trying to satisfy the customer and a manufacturer's guidelines. Finding a balance between customer wants and manufacturer restrictions is not for the faint of heart. Sometimes it is simply easier to tell the customer no.


Before you dismiss your dealers advice not to do something you should understand that your dealer is most likely advising you based on their attempt to adhere to the BRP/Can Am roadsters limited warranty policy. At the same time they are more likely than not attempting to protect both themselves and you.

Take time to read and understand your warranty statement. You may decide your dealer is only trying to do the right thing for you, BRP, and himself.


SCOPE OF THE LIMITED WARRANTY

Bombardier Recreational Products Inc. (“BRP”)* warrants its Can-Am Spyder roadsters sold by authorized Spyder Dealers in the fifty United States and in Canada from defects in material or workmanship for the period and under the conditions as described in your owners manual.

This limited warranty will become null and void if the Spyder roadster has been altered or modified in such a way so as to adversely affect its operation, performance or durability, or has been altered or modified to change its intended use. **

EXCLUSIONS—'ARE NOT WARRANTED'

Damage resulting from the installation of parts with specifications that differ from the original Spyder parts, such as, without limitation, different tires, exhaust system, wheels or brakes. Damage resulting from removal of parts, improper repairs, improper service or improper maintenance. Modifications, or alterations that are outside the original specifications of the roadster. (Just because it's not specifically called out here don't assume it's OK.) If in doubt - Ask your dealer, and if you doubt them - ask BRP if it will have warranty consequences.

What your dealer may be trying to tell you when he says he won't do that, or you should not do that, is most likely because he knows, **
BRP/Can Am Spyder does not have to prove anything to deny a warranty claim initially. It can be denied on assumption. They have the latitude based on their warranty statement to say NOT covered due to any number of reasons. That action in and of itself means YOU have to prove otherwise. Welcome to being put on defense. My suggestion is to give a lot of thought to anything you do that could allow them such power. If in doubt ask your dealer or BRP. Unless you simply don't care about the potential consequences of your actions.

CONSUMER ASSISTANCE - (BRP places your dealer in a darned if he does and darned if he doesn't position) In the event of a controversy or a dispute in connection with this limited warranty, BRP suggests that you try to resolve the issue at the dealership level. We recommend discussing the issue with the authorized Spyder Dealer's service manager or owner, before contacting us.


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I'm not pushing any agenda here or attempting to impact any after market supplier or any of their products.

Being able to have a choice is a wonderful thing. Making an informed decision is even better.

Let the flaming begin.



 
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Thats why I modded my '09 GS to a '12 RT limited. Doing so extended my warranty from 1 month to 4 years,.
 
The way I see it, is not only the dealer being in a darned if the do, darned if they don't position, but also the owner. The way warranties usually read puts them in the position of most advantage. I put an iPod converter in my car and they tried to deny my claim when the ambient temp sensor went out, saying any electronic addition can interfere with their original design. Put that in the perspective of the spyder and they could use any and every excuse. New gauges, moving the GPS, or adding a charger jack could all void your warranty based on the way they usually read.

I try to be as calm and professional as possible with the dealer staff. The more they like and respect you as an individual, the more likely they would be to go to bat for you in the event of an issue. Being a jerk can guarantee a negative outcome far sooner than a mod IMHO.

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While I don't like what it says; they've got the right to protect themselves and make us provide the proof behind our reasoning that an issue should be addressed unter the warranty... :shocked:
Thanks for posting this! :thumbup:
 
No flaming from here. Most warranties say the same thing. However, most states have laws regarding warranties as well. If you have an issue with the warranty it's always best to take it up at the dealer level first. They are the first line of defense, believe me, I know this as fact from my job. The company itself is the second line. Then there is the mediator. Having a dealer install aftermarket farkles doesn't relieve them or you from the warranty issue.
 
Found this aftermarket parts disclosure very telling. It's a long and sometimes repetitive read but, worth it if interested. ABC disclosure - all bases covered.

Installation of any of these items may adversely affect, void or violate the terms of the warranty coverage on your vehicle. You should carefully review the terms of your vehicle warranty prior to purchase and/or installation of any aftermarket part or accessory.

http://buyanaccessory.com/catalog/disclaimer.htm?Ardmore Toyota
 
BRP 2 year warranty & B.E.S.T. or (+) WARRANTY

Read and understand them so you don't end up :shocked: and dismayed nojoke
 
If a dealer installed a after market idem, And it causes the loss of your warranty, The dealer is responsible for the repair. [unless you sign a waver]
In the eyes of the law the dealer is the expert, You the customer are the Layman.
If the install will void the warranty' the dealer ie the expert should refuse to do the install.
 
If a dealer installed a after market idem, And it causes the loss of your warranty, The dealer is responsible for the repair. [unless you sign a waver]
In the eyes of the law the dealer is the expert, You the customer are the Layman.
If the install will void the warranty' the dealer ie the expert should refuse to do the install.

" Neither the distributor, any Spyder Dealer nor any other person has been authorized
to make any affirmation, representation or warranty regarding the roadster,other than those contained in this limited warranty, and if made, shall not be​
enforceable against BRP."
 
" Neither the distributor, any Spyder Dealer nor any other person has been authorized
to make any affirmation, representation or warranty regarding the roadster,other than those contained in this limited warranty, and if made, shall not be​
enforceable against BRP."

After reading this thread, I'm almost relieved I can't afford any farkles right now. Whew!:)
 
After reading this thread, I'm almost relieved I can't afford any farkles right now. Whew!:)

Never fear there are "high risk" and "low risk" mods as it pertains to creating warranty difficulties. Also BRP makes lots of farkles for your ride. Farkle away I think it is somewhat obvious where the line between high and low risk actually lays!
 
For many of us modding our ride is a major part of the overall enjoyment. I for one can't conceive of purchasing a motorcycle and leaving it stock. Not only do I enjoy the improvements the modifications offer, I also enjoy planning, often designing, and installing the mods. Modding also extends the enjoyment of a motorcycle into the off season where new mods can be planned and installed over the course of weeks or months.

Manufacturers should embrace the fact that modding is so popular, it no doubt helps with sales and they have thousands of people to design and test improvements to their stock designs. Clear evidence of this is the RT which is the ultimate mod of the GS/RS. BRP obviously noticed that early owners of GS/RS models went to great lengths to improve its comfort and touring capabilities. Thanks to early GS/RS owner's efforts they had a clear blueprint for exactly what their customers wanted and how to design it. The RT has more than doubled the success of the Spyder line.

You shouldn't and don't have to give up modding, which has added so much benefit to our sport. You just have to make some careful decisions. If a mod has the potential of adversely affecting the warranty, first carefully consider whether or not it can be uninstalled if necessary. If not, then you must decide if the mod is worth the risk of possibly voiding the warranty covering the portion(s) of the bike that have been modified. Either way, at least it's your call.

Modding your ride is incredibly enjoyable. Yes there may be some risk, but risk is inherent to motorcycling. So mod away and carry on one of the greatest traditions of the sport!
 
I've contemplateted this thread for so dang long, but there's still more to consider

:dontknow:How far is too far to go when it comes to modding :dontknow: ones own personal ryde :rolleyes:

For the most part, as others have stated, I've tried my best to play the safe side, only doing things that could possibly be changed back, in a worse case senario of something going wrong and needing to rely on said warranty.

But now, I find myself at a crossroads and struggling greatly if I should continue with a planned totally made up mod of my own creation, of basically adding a pseudo-built-in air-conditioning/heating system for Teddy's passenger area. This would require plumbing in tubing from the left side storage compartment, thru the black plastic backing, under the rear and up to the open area between where the back of the seat & the passenger backrest are located. Require drilling holes around 2-3 inches in diameter, which causes me to question my sanity. I realize I should be able to find block-off plates of the correct size if for some reason I'd have to remove this system, but the holes would be forever there.

I guess my real reservation isn't really even concerning the warranty implications, as much as, the possible deminishing of potential resale value, if such a day were to ever come.......................... Thoughts :dontknow:
 
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