Recall - 2017-2019 RT and F3 Engine Output Shaft Can Break!

[YIRYDE]

I was sent this and didn’t see it posted and sharing it with the Spyder Community.

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/owner-zone/safety-recalls/engine-output-shaft-can-break-potential-loss-of-drive-power.html

 

[BertRemington]

This is very unfortunate for the Spyder community. Spyders are not a big profit center for BRP - the quads are. Depending on the recall scope our next 3-wheeler purchase might be a Harley Freewheeler.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

For those interested in more background on this:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RCLRPT-24V728-6670.PDF

 

[TheMariner]

According to my trusted mechanic, this output shaft failure has been a known issue for a while but owners have had to pay for repairs themselves. Looks like BRP/Rotax is now accepting responsibility & being proactive... which is a good thing.

 

[BCNewell]

Looks like mine is safe. My swingarm sticker shows a production date of 06/2016, which predates the October 29, 2016, date that the ‘17 models started with the new process. Glad I won’t have to be relying on BRP’s ‘quality’ techs to get my machine torn apart and put back together *correctly*!

Thanks to Snowbelt for putting up the particulars. :thumbup:

 

[YIRYDE]

According to my trusted mechanic, this output shaft failure has been a known issue for a while but owners have had to pay for repairs themselves. Looks like BRP/Rotax is now accepting responsibility & being proactive... which is a good thing.

Per the recall, they may be able to get reimbursed for the repair.

 

[RickyB]

does anyone here know it there is a an unusual noise or a other indication of imminent failure of the output shaft?
if the shaft fails does the wheel lock up?

 

[MeudtPG]

RickyB,
When mine broke there was no noise or any unusual feeling. It just acted & revved up like it was in neutral with no forward momentum.
Got out of traffic and pushed it to safety freewheeling. Unbelievable that this is still happening, but good that somebody is finally accountable. Very, very expensive to replace all the transmission parts including labor because of all the metal throughout. Around $8000.00 - so BRP has their hands full on this one.
See pictures:

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[Freddy]

According to my trusted mechanic, this output shaft failure has been a known issue for a while but owners have had to pay for repairs themselves. Looks like BRP/Rotax is now accepting responsibility & being REACTIVE... . which is THE USUAL thing.

Corrected spelling.

 

[old Timer]

The engine maker will most likely be on the hook for the cost, The ultimate cost will be the responsibility after a thorough analysis of the reasoning behind the change, business insurance companies plus a raft of Lawyers and mechanical engineering entities. Hopefully the change wasn't the result of Bean Counters trying to save a little $ with out a proper engineering analysis.

 

[Bunson]

I have a 2018 that is affected. I was not even aware there was a problem. I've been a daily reader of this forum and don't recall any failures.

 

[YIRYDE]

I have a 2018 that is affected. I was not even aware there was a problem. I've been a daily reader of this forum and don't recall any failures.

I have two 2018 F3T’s that are in the dates of the affected models. I hope they get a solution before next years riding season. If so, I will try to get it fixed over the winter.

 

[Freddy]

I have two 2018 F3T’s that are in the dates of the affected models. I hope they get a solution before next years riding season. If so, I will try to get it fixed over the winter.

l wish you luck. It'll be a whole lot worse than the drive sprocket recall, and here we were worried about curing time for Loctite. This recall will take years.

 

[eddieshep999]

I wondered if BRP are considering sending out a complete Transmission unit as a direct replacement as it may save them high Labour costs and possible downtime for those owners affected by the recall
Hopefully this would be a swap out rather than a rebuild on existing Spyders
One thing that may be a worry is the quality and availability of dealers that can carry out the work
We just need to see what BRP proposed action will be

 

[Allen42]

Is there VIN lookup database somewhere online, so I can check if I have one of the 156 2019s affected? (And to verify the status of the front sprocket recall as well.)

 

[BajaRon]

I would say this is a quality control issue. Though some output shafts will fail, most will last the life of the vehicle, as they should.

It is bad news, but not the end of the world. This too shall pass.

 

[Bunson]

Can Am website: https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/e...PLI1IyXv-fNrWAhryFTOZlkjkn0BIAmjyUnW-_8H0qXv4

 

[BajaRon]

Can Am website: https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/e...PLI1IyXv-fNrWAhryFTOZlkjkn0BIAmjyUnW-_8H0qXv4

I will admit, the list posted looks pretty gruesome. Still, it is wise to balance this against the millions of trouble free or minor issue miles Spyder riders have experienced. Not trying to put lipstick on a pig here. Because I don't believe that to be an accurate analogy.

 

[Bunson]

I agree Ron. And that's my problem at the same time. I'm trying to sell my 2018. Do I say anything to prospective buyers. Do I wait until the bike is fixed? With knowing how long it took to get replacement drive sprockets in peoples hands this may take a year or two to be resolved.
As I mentioned in my first post I wasn't aware of a problem, let alone one big enough to cause Can Am to address the situation on their own. Even a casual reader of this forum had to be aware of the drive sprocket problem.

 

[Allen42]

The NHTSA report says only 5% overall of bikes in the years in the recall were affected. Looks like some 2017s, all 2018s, and just a few 2019s, if I read it correctly.