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Says; 'Pull Pin & Toss' - Seems easy enough...
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BajaRon
Well-known member
You may be right!~
Oil opinions always interest me. I came across this video and it seemed innocent enough.
I guess it's a combination of chuckling about how seriously some take the oil question, and wanting to get reasonable information circulating. The debate will never go away. But it is nice to have some fun with it when you can.
Bob Denman
New member
:shocked: Viscosity modifiers? :shocked:
I just want to know which one will make my popcorn taste better... :dontknow:
I just want to know which one will make my popcorn taste better... :dontknow:
STELLING MAN
Member
OIL
It's Amsoil for me, I used It In my Gold Wings for thirty years with good results, I know It will do the same for my :f_spider::thumbup:
It's Amsoil for me, I used It In my Gold Wings for thirty years with good results, I know It will do the same for my :f_spider::thumbup:
BajaRon
Well-known member
Yes, I'm sure they may have noticed an uptick in their revenue flow from Valvoline with that little ditty. But what interested me in the whole thing is that the only ding they had for full synthetic oil was that 'It cost more!'.
Well, my Spyder cost me more than any other 'Motorcycle' I've ever owned. Does that mean I should have gotten something less expensive? What kind of logic is that? And isn't it reasonable that a better product might cost more? Of course you always have the 'Needed' factor. No use spending more if it isn't doing you any good. I get that.
But the blended thing is a bit misleading. Most blended oils have only 10% full synthetic. The additional price per quart is usually much higher than a 10% synthetic added would warrant.
So, the debate goes on. I suppose I really need to quit :bdh:
BajaRon
Well-known member
Bob Denman
New member
I've been using bacon grease...
...And I don't care how illegal it might be!!
opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:
Orange Spyder Man
New member
I used "100% synthetic" in all my bikes for years... and will continue using 100% synthetic in my :spyder2:
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Gray Ghost
New member
Ron, a life tip when wondering if you should pull the pin. 
(from http://www.rangerup.com/grenade.html)
(from http://www.rangerup.com/grenade.html)
billybovine
Active member
To add some life to the discussion.
Last week I asked a question on http://xpslubricants.com/
My Question:
In my owners manual it recommends the blended XPS motor oil or a 5W40 motorcycle oil blended or synthetic. Why is the Xps synthetic not recommended in the manual. Yet on the XPS Lubricants web site it appears to be recommended. Please explain the discrepancy?
The answer I received:
Hi Ron,
Thanks for the question – the answer is a bit complicated. The XPS full synthetic is neither recommended nor unrecommended. The full synthetic is a better oil formulation than the XPS blend; it has better base stock lubrication and the same additive package and friction profile as the 5W-40 blend, with the benefit of better cold start engine protection.
The blend is recommended for your machine as the “official” recommended oil because that was the formulation used during the engineering validation of your Spyder. BRP expects to have validation completed on XPS full synthetic shortly. As you indicated with the discrepancy, it does not make sense to recommend untested, aftermarket full synthetic formulations but not our own XPS brand in the product manual. We expect this discrepancy to be remedied in the near future.
XPS Lubricants
Last week I asked a question on http://xpslubricants.com/
My Question:
In my owners manual it recommends the blended XPS motor oil or a 5W40 motorcycle oil blended or synthetic. Why is the Xps synthetic not recommended in the manual. Yet on the XPS Lubricants web site it appears to be recommended. Please explain the discrepancy?
The answer I received:
Hi Ron,
Thanks for the question – the answer is a bit complicated. The XPS full synthetic is neither recommended nor unrecommended. The full synthetic is a better oil formulation than the XPS blend; it has better base stock lubrication and the same additive package and friction profile as the 5W-40 blend, with the benefit of better cold start engine protection.
The blend is recommended for your machine as the “official” recommended oil because that was the formulation used during the engineering validation of your Spyder. BRP expects to have validation completed on XPS full synthetic shortly. As you indicated with the discrepancy, it does not make sense to recommend untested, aftermarket full synthetic formulations but not our own XPS brand in the product manual. We expect this discrepancy to be remedied in the near future.
XPS Lubricants
BajaRon
Well-known member
Makes sense. Bottom line is, they know it is better, they know it will work better, but they can't say so until they try it. That's why they have attorneys. To tell them what they can say and when they can say it. A necessity in today's world.
