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Water depth for fording a river for Can Am Spyder Canyon

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How much water can a Can Am Spyder Canyon ford? Example; Bill Williams River on Planet Ranch Road, Arizona, La Paz County Arizona Peace Trail, which is usually almost dry. Another example is MVUM road in Nicolet Forest after a rain fall. My 2018 Jeep JLUR can ford 24” of standing water safely. In a review of the owner's manual, I missed that information for a Can Am Canyon 2025.
 
Usually, as long as the air box/air intake is not under water you should be good. The question is where is the air box??
 
I asked Copilot and received the following answer:

Q.: What is the deepest water a can am canyon can safely drive through

Copilot: What features make the Can-Am Canyon suitable for water?
  • High Ground Clearance: This helps the vehicle navigate shallow water without risking damage to its undercarriage.
  • Durable Radiator Grill: Protects the engine from debris and water splashes.
  • Enduro Anti-Slip Foot Pegs: Provide stability and grip, even in wet conditions.
  • Adventure Wheels and Tires: Designed for traction on slippery surfaces.
  • Semi-Active Suspension: Adjusts to terrain, ensuring a smooth ride through uneven or wet areas.
  • Water-Cooled Engine: The Rotax ACE 1330 cc engine is liquid-cooled, which helps maintain performance in varying conditions.

I then asked:
Q: What is the high ground clearance for a 2025 can am canyon

Copilot: The 2025 Can-Am Canyon boasts a ground clearance of 6.3 inches, which is higher than some of its counterparts, like the Ryker Rally. This added clearance, combined with its long-travel suspension, makes it well-suited for tackling uneven terrain and light off-road adventures.

The referenced source material is can-am.com www.totalmotorcycle.com www.autoblog.com and ridermagazine.com

Hope it helps
 
Fording water safely by Jeep JLUR. Extensive write ups can be found on other off road machines. Looking for clarity to operate safely.
 
Well, no matter what they say, common sense has to be in there somewhere! If you have big rocks and boulders under there it's not a four-wheel drive! If it a hard gravel bottom and not going over your tires you may be OK, but it's your ride and remember your life jacket!! 🙃
 
Personally, even before risking anything getting into ANY vent or air intake, I wouldn't be taking one of these 'fairly complex electrical nightmare' type machines thru water deep enough to get into any of the electrics unless it was an absolutely critical situation &/or there was help nearby in the event of failure; as I doubt their electricals are really up to being immersed for too long - rain &/or road spray, sure, they'll handle that, even torrential driving rain, but full on dunking, yeah, NO!! I really doubt that'd be a good thing in the long run!!

And then there's the breathers, vents, and rotating machinery components to consider too!! I doubt that any of the bearings, seals, etc on a Canyon are fully waterproof - they aren't on Spyders or Rykers! I've seen wheel hub bearings on both that've been well & truly destroyed by water ingress - so I'm pretty sure they aren't water PROOF bearings, even if they might be water RESISTANT bearings; so again, rain &/or road spray, sure, but full immersion for too long/too often, ESPECIALLY when they're hot and likely to suck water into their critical areas if they suddenly get dunked into cold water, NO WAY!! Same goes for all the vents & breathers and other 'not truly water-proof' components on the motor & transmission - vents & breathers are obvious potential issues, but so are all those seals that are designed to stop oil leaking OUT, not stop water getting sucked in!!

Also, consider the fans & radiators - even electrically driven fans will take a moment or two to stop spinning when you suddenly dunk the spinning bits into water, and those plastic blades WILL work very much like propellers given half a chance. So if your fans are spinning when they hit the water, at the very least there will SUDDENLY be some savage flex in each blade as it bites - so there's a good chance they'll immediately over-stress the blade or hub somewhere, maybe even shatter or break off, and if they do flex a little instead, how far do they need to flex before they start to dig into the radiator core?? And what about the radiator itself?? 4WD radiators are generally made to be a tad more robust than your average auto or motorcycle radiator, specifically in order to withstand the greater vibrations experienced off roading and the rapid temperature changes experienced if they get dunked into cold water - temperature changes that can cause significant localised cracking &/or destruction of joints etc, and I seriously can't see BRP investing in the extra $$ to upgrade the radiator to better withstand that sort of treatment...

So all up, I wouldn't be riding a Canyon into water that was deep enough to get even CLOSE to the wheel hubs, let alone to get into the electrics &/or bearings, oil seals, etc on the motor/trans; and btw, it might also pay to check on your insurance too - will it cover you for recovery, damage &/or write off if you chose to drive/ride your fairly expensive machine into anything much deeper than a puddle and things go pear shaped?? I wonder...
 
If you're not caught by surprise in it & have options - avoid it. Severe lack of traction. Might creep at walking pace to get out of it. Otherwise, general principle to avoid & find alternatives. CANYON might be better suited for some off road experience - *some*.
 
As Raven said, this is not a 4x4 and in fact, it only has one drive wheel. I think a large part of the limiting factor will be the one wheel drive. I found that to be the problem when I tried my Spyders in the snow. The RT did better, but simply because there was more weight on the drive wheel. The F3T was useless. I am not tempted to get a Canyon, but I have thrown the idea around about getting a Ryker. But it would be useful for that 2% of the time that I go on a dirt road. For me, it's just not worth the investment. But to each their own.
 
Being an avid SxS owner with a Kawasaki KRX 1000 with over 5000 miles in 4.5 years, I am waiting to read about the first recovery of a Canyon that went where it should not have gone, which to me is not very far off the payment. One wheel drive. Really, you want to go off roading in an one wheel drive 1000 lb vehicle????
 
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