Oil leak 2021 400 miles - HELP

[bluewoo]

Update: 6/2/21 So far it's been good. I did get the brake failure warning lamp yesterday - I hope I just had my foot resting on the brake pedal and it didn't come back on after restarting it.
Installed Lamonts bolt kit for the mirrors, confident this will be a good upgrade.
Hope to do some good riding this weekend as the weather looks good here in PA.
Found this little three cyl is $10 grand so the Service dept wasn't BS'ing me about that.
Click the link and scroll to the bottom, wow!

https://www.can-amparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/60229b2887a86610e0b19423/rotax-crankcase

 

[Mikey]

The big thing about having some thing like this done to a piece of equipment is to take the time and look it all over real well!! A LOT has been touched under her skirt and she's not a virgin any more, make sure now that everything is tight and leak free!! Good luck, happy miles!!! :cheers:

 

[rolick22]

My New 2020 RT Spyder (bought in February with 1.2 miles on it) is leaking oil due to porosity in the case. I have asked BRP to replace my engine due to the porosity in the engine. Unfortunately for me they said no, we don’t want to replace your engine. Apparently, the fix is to take some special epoxy and use it as a barrier to prevent oil from leaking from the area on the case where the porosity is. Just thought I would let you know and see if any other owners have seen this to.

 

[trikermutha]

Boy I would not accept that H.S. repair.

 

[bluewoo]

My New 2020 RT Spyder (bought in February with 1.2 miles on it) is leaking oil due to porosity in the case. I have asked BRP to replace my engine due to the porosity in the engine. Unfortunately for me they said no, we don’t want to replace your engine. Apparently, the fix is to take some special epoxy and use it as a barrier to prevent oil from leaking from the area on the case where the porosity is. Just thought I would let you know and see if any other owners have seen this to.

My dealer said that BRP gave them that option, he told them I would not except it that as a repair and requested a new engine. Call BRP again and tell them you want the engine replaced as this could be a machining issue internally and epoxy is not going to fix it.
This leak had pressure behind it. I used 'Form a gasket' as a test, and it got blown out going to the dealership, and I explained to them everything and showed them the video too. A new engine is listed for over $10k! Their problem - not mine!!!

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=WjhmOTJZMkdubU9CeHFTVXY4TEg5b2JYZElaUVZ3

 

[TicketBait]

Update: 6/2/21 So far it's been good. I did get the brake failure warning lamp yesterday - I hope I just had my foot resting on the brake pedal and it didn't come back on after restarting it.
Installed Lamonts bolt kit for the mirrors, confident this will be a good upgrade.
Hope to do some good riding this weekend as the weather looks good here in PA.
Found this little three cyl is $10 grand so the Service dept wasn't BS'ing me about that.
Click the link and scroll to the bottom, wow!

https://www.can-amparts.com/oemparts/a/cam/60229b2887a86610e0b19423/rotax-crankcase

My dealer said that BRP gave them that option, he told them I would not except it that as a repair and requested a new engine. Call BRP again and tell them you want the engine replaced as this could be a machining issue internally and epoxy is not going to fix it.
This leak had pressure behind it. I used 'Form a gasket' as a test, and it got blown out going to the dealership, and I explained to them everything and showed them the video too. A new engine is listed for over $10k! Their problem - not mine!!!

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=WjhmOTJZMkdubU9CeHFTVXY4TEg5b2JYZElaUVZ3

Have not read all 80+ posts, just the first and then the last 10. So maybe this has been answered.

To bluewoo;
When they determined (BRP) that the engine needed to be replaced was there ever the option of getting a replacement Spyder instead? I mean the engine cost $10K, the crank case $2K, and then there is labor too, right? And if something is torqued right or a wire not attached, etc; and how about my time having to take to and from dealership to have inspected. Waiting for answers... BRP authorized and shipped ultra violet dye on July 6th. The dealership bought the dye light from snap-on tools and will let me know what was discovered, hopefully today. I have a total of 265 miles on a machine that I have owned since March 6th 2021.

Hoping for the best (preparing for the worst) that it is just a simple to fix leak.

 

[Lew L]

BRP really needs to step up and take care of its customers with out all this BS. They are selling units as fast as they make 'em and BRP should get it's motor supplier to take care of casting porosity. What major auto or motorcycle company would treat it's customers (with motors that leak oil as a brand new unit) like this???

 

[Papa103]

Have not read all 80+ posts, just the first and then the last 10. So maybe this has been answered.

To bluewoo;
When they determined (BRP) that the engine needed to be replaced was there ever the option of getting a replacement Spyder instead? I mean the engine cost $10K, the crank case $2K, and then there is labor too, right? And if something is torqued right or a wire not attached, etc; and how about my time having to take to and from dealership to have inspected. Waiting for answers... BRP authorized and shipped ultra violet dye on July 6th. The dealership bought the dye light from snap-on tools and will let me know what was discovered, hopefully today. I have a total of 265 miles on a machine that I have owned since March 6th 2021.

Hoping for the best (preparing for the worst) that it is just a simple to fix leak.

I posted this in another forum also. I had a small leak on my 2021 Spyder RTL. It was on the right side and the oil leaked down the front and across the bottom towards the rear of the bike. All on the right side. It was a small leak, I never added oil, just small leaks on the floor. I found the leak after about an hour of running the engine @ 2500 to 3000 RPM's. It was a small oil plug by the oil filter. I was able to tighten it about 1/8 turn and have ridden over 1500 miles since and all is still dry. I have pictures of the leak, it sounds like it's in the same area as yours. I started looking for the leak just so I could show the dealer where the oil was coming from.

 

[bluewoo]

Have not read all 80+ posts just the first and last 10. So maybe this has been answered.

To bluewoo;
When they determined (BRP) that the engine needed to be replaced was there ever the option of getting a replacement spyder instead?. I mean the engine cost $10K the crank case $2K and then there is labor, right? And if something is torqued right or a wire not attached, etc.. and how about my time having to take to and from dealership to have inspected. Waiting for answers...... , BRP authorized and shipped ultra violet dye on July 6th. dealership bought Dye lite from snap tools and will let me know what was discovered hopefully today. Have a total of 265 miles on a machine that I have owned since March 6th 2021.

hoping for the best (preparing for the worst) that it is just a simple to fix leak,

Sorry, I haven't been on for a while!
The dealer just called one day and said a new engine was being installed. They only told me more info when I was picking it up afterwards, about BRP wanting to JB weld it.
That's all the info I have.
Hope you can get yours corrected quickly - please keep us posted.

 

[BOBNH]

Had the same thing wrong with my 2021 RT Limited with 3,000 miles on it. Mine was as at dealer for 2 months; BRP said they were going to do the epoxy and give me a 10 year warranty. The dealer pulled the motor and applied the epoxy, got it up to running temp, and the oil was still leaking. I called BRP Customer Service and finally they agreed to ship a new motor. Luckily for me, they were in stock.

I got the machine back 2 weeks ago now and so far all is good. The BRP Customer Service # I called to open a claim was 1-800-882-2900.

I noticed the other day that oil was leaking again, so back to the dealer - the good news is that it was over filled by a QT of oil. Not by the dealer who did the engine swap, but by the dealer I bought it from. The dealer cleaned the air box and installed a new air filter, so it should be good now. People!!!!!!

 

[OakGroveRyder]

I'll be taking my 2021 RTL back to the dealer for a major oil leak on the engine due to the timing chain adjustment plug being loose. It had 1.2 miles on it when I brought it home. I noticed a lot of oil all over the engine when I installed the torsion bar, but just thought that being new, it came that way. The next day, after putting on it's first 45 miles, I had a large oil puddle under it, and the bottom belly pan was full of oil. Called the dealer and they said to get there as soon as possible and they would take care of it. Roelefsons in Toronto, S.D. They are awesome.

I am hoping that I didn't get a lemon. Things didn't start out so good.