What's the one thing you think is Useless Junk on your Spyder?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Pushing mode before starting:banghead::barf:. Safety card itself is more useful as just a reminder for our forgetful selves.

It's most useful as a shade for the cluster screen when you park with the sun behind you!!!

 

[Yabbadabbadoo]

The stock rear shock/spring combo on my F3-S SS was worthless for anyone who weighs more than 165 lbs. The rear view mirrors could be better, maybe mounted higher. BRP Connect was so bad...gave up on it. I don't even want to try Go.

 

[ARtraveler]

I have been pondering this one and so far, I am alright with the amenity level on all of the Spyders I have owned.

One take away, that I have complained about several times, was the removal of the frunk release button on the RT models.

Other than that, I guess I am satisfied. :bowdown:

 

[ned64]

I really like my '17 RTL. Havent had any problems with it. I thought about trading it in on a '21 or '22 RTL or a F3L when they come in. But looking a '21 RTL over closely an taking a demo ride on one I wasnt impressed enough to get rid of mine. Less painted surfaces, crappy brp connect, an the troubles I see here with them that the higher powers at BRP wont fix. Best stay with mine an wait an see if BRP will listen to people that actually ride spyders . Not just sit in a office an guess what people should want, and put it on. Just my thoughts.

 

[canamjhb]

The turn signal indicators on the dash of my 2014 RTL were almost impossible for my old eyes to detect..... Jim

 

[ThreeWheels]

I'm OK with all the amenities on my 2020 RTL, but I still prefer a Garmin GPS.
It would be nice of BRP connect could accept bluetooth pairing from the Garmin. The bluetooth auxiliary dongles are a workaround, but they don't allow for full integration with the BRP systems.
One thing I'd like to see returned is a fully manual transmission.
It took a while getting used to the semi auto paddle shifts, and I'm OK with it.
Still, I'd prefer the fully manual transmission, including the clutch.

That's my opinion, I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone on this site would be delighted to point it out.

 

[mecsw500]

One thing I'd like to see returned is a fully manual transmission.
It took a while getting used to the semi auto paddle shifts, and I'm OK with it.
Still, I'd prefer the fully manual transmission, including the clutch.

That's my opinion, I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone on this site would be delighted to point it out.

Now you see, I'm the opposite. It's been a long time since any of my cars had manual transmissions. Obviously my motorcycles do, but somehow they seem to be in a different category in my mind.

I would prefer my RT LTD to have a fully automatic transmission (not a double clutch or CVT though) with manual override using the paddles. The RT Limited seems more like a relaxed cruiser to me and a nice smooth auto transmission, 6 speed or more, would to my mind be preferable. I could see a manual option on a Ryker or some of the sportier Spyders, but on the RT Limited or Sea-to-Sky I would go fully auto all the way.

Funny how different people prefer different things and how much we instinctively consider the controls to be motorcycle derived or car derived. Lol

 

[WDAVEY]

19

On my 21 RTL we could do without 3 different ways to adjust the volume on the sound system. I have never used the above tank controls and rarely use the left joystick to adjust the volume. one button is more than enough. Does anyone use the tank controls? What a waste.

And while they're removing volume buttons (I count 4 - joystick, volume on the left handlebar, volume on the "tank" and volume by the passenger seat), put the windshield button back on the left handlebar where it was on my '19.

 

[bikerbillone]

The turn signal indicators on the dash of my 2014 RTL were almost impossible for my old eyes to detect..... Jim

My complaint about turn signals not bad but, non cancelling feature not available except on right or left turns, I'd like to see road distance cancellation. Lane change ya gotta push real hard on the button at the middle, then sometime it goes to the opposite turn signal. Just sort of distracting. 2020 RTL.......

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

My complaint about turn signals not bad but, non cancelling feature not available except on right or left turns, I'd like to see road distance cancellation. Lane change ya gotta push real hard on the button at the middle, then sometime it goes to the opposite turn signal. Just sort of distracting. 2020 RTL.......

I'm sure it's like the earlier years. It's not a distance cancel but it is a time cancel, about 30 seconds. Try it. Just be patient!

 

[bikerbillone]

Will do, good info, thanks.

 

[Big F]

I would think they could have come up with something more easy to operate than the God awful toggle switch for music and dash controls????????
BIG F

 

[Adventurer]

I'm sure it's like the earlier years. It's not a distance cancel but it is a time cancel, about 30 seconds. Try it. Just be patient!

Per the Owner's Manual for the 2021 RTL: "Turn signals will automatically turn off after 30 seconds while the vehicle is moving."

 

[bikerbillone]

Thanks, guess I need to read my Owner's Manual more carefully. I think 30 seconds is a bit long, but helpful if ya forget to shut down the turn signal.

 

[LongIsland]

I have a 2014 RTL so I find the helmet hooks under the seat useless, the inability to set the screen to what the rider wants to see. For example, I may want to see the radio settings rather than the speed and rpms, which I can see on the analog displays as well. The safety message pull-down, although I use it to block the sun when parked and I clip directions on index cards when I don't use GPS.

 

[ARtraveler]

The turn signal indicators on the dash of my 2014 RTL were almost impossible for my old eyes to detect..... Jim

I have fixed the turn signal situation. Have mirror lights on both my F3's. Added vent lights in the process. Now they can see me coming, and, I just need to look at the edges of the mirrors to see the turn signals in action. :bowdown:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I think 30 seconds is a bit long, but helpful if ya forget to shut down the turn signal.

:agree: 15 to 20 seconds would be much better, IMO. That's why I seldom rely on letting it shut down the signal. 30 seconds at 60 mph is a half mile of travel!

 

[2dogs]

I have a 2014 RTL so I find the helmet hooks under the seat useless, the inability to set the screen to what the rider wants to see. For example, I may want to see the radio settings rather than the speed and rpms, which I can see on the analog displays as well. The safety message pull-down, although I use it to block the sun when parked and I clip directions on index cards when I don't use GPS.

I think you hit the eco button a couple of times and it brings your radio settings.

 

[SpyderF3-s]

Eco Mode - Front Sprocket - DESS

 

[cruisinTX]

:agree: 15 to 20 seconds would be much better, IMO. That's why I seldom rely on letting it shut down the signal. 30 seconds at 60 mph is a half mile of travel!

I just now saw this discussion about the timed turn signal and was wondering if anyone else had an issue with it. I agree 30 seconds is WAY too long. Even at 30mph that's a quarter mile; in a lot of cities that's 4 blocks where people might think you are turning (right) and pull out in front of you. There's a liability issue right there that BRP needs to address.